Verification photos

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Lots of WG's hide their verification photo on AW.

Why?

If a WG has to hide her verification photo, why would anyone visit her?

In my view, an attractive verification photo is the best way for a WG to get punters - why don't WG's routinely publish them?
 
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Mine isn't published as my profile suddenly got removed even though I was verified so I had to do it again after just coming back from swimming. My hair was wet so really curly and looked terrible and I refuse to have photos of me with curly hair on show
 
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I can understand when a profile does not include photos of their face, but many WG's who show their face hide their verification photos - this is what I don't understand.
 
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Because of the way AW works. I'm not verified because I tried it and they deleted me for not being in the UK. The stuff they wanted to verify was ridiculous. I refused a booking with somebody because I didn't offer what he wanted, I was already verified at that point, he told me he was reporting me for refusing the booking. Because of the report they wanted two forms of ID, photos of me in front of English recognised places holding AW signs and something else I can't remember. I couldn't give them everything they asked for so they deleted my profile. Load of shit. Verification means nothing.
 
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Mine isn't published as my profile suddenly got removed even though I was verified so I had to do it again after just coming back from swimming. My hair was wet so really curly and looked terrible and I refuse to have photos of me with curly hair on show
I can understand what you are saying, but if you are a serious business, you would be able to address your concerns - e.g. post your verification photo when you haven't been swimming and you are happy with how you look.
 
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Because of the way AW works. I'm not verified because I tried it and they deleted me for not being in the UK. The stuff they wanted to verify was ridiculous. I refused a booking with somebody because I didn't offer what he wanted, I was already verified at that point, he told me he was reporting me for refusing the booking. Because of the report they wanted two forms of ID, photos of me in front of English recognised places holding AW signs and something else I can't remember. I couldn't give them everything they asked for so they deleted my profile. Load of shit. Verification means nothing.
It could mean nothing, but it could also mean the difference between a booking or no booking.
 
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I can understand when a profile does not include photos of their face, but many WG's who show their face hide their verification photos - this is what I don't understand.
In my experience verification can mean sweet fuck all but I get your point here. What I have noticed is in some veri photos the WG looks rough whereas in her free pics she looks more attractive to me.
 
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I can understand what you are saying, but if you are a serious business, you would be able to address your concerns - e.g. post your verification photo when you haven't been swimming and you are happy with how you look.
I'm with you on this MaxxBlue - a decent verification pic on display is worth 100 professionally taken gallery pics.
 
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It could mean nothing, but it could also mean the difference between a booking or no booking.
I'm fine with people not booking me on the fact that I'm not verified if the alternative is having my profile removed, my feedback then going and losing the credits I've made from my PG.

I've also seen warnings from other WG's on saafe where they've uploaded a driving license/passport and some slip of the system has had that photo (real full name and address) show up as a completely separate WG's profile pic. I'm happy with the number of bookings I get and won't verify again even if that means losing some potential bookings.
 
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I think the trend of aw asking girls to hold up personal identification in their veri pix is one reason. Who wants a load of strangers to know their name, address, date of birth and drivers licence number, Id cloning stealing does occur on out wonderful planet. Its literally begging someone to blackmail you or to turn up at your house and leaflet your entire neighbourhood

Also holding up sign saying adultwork and your username disolves any possible denyability we may have should our aw account become known to friends and family members

Now guys, imagine if you not only had to give every girl you see your ID but you had to have a picture of your face with your name and address under your chin for EVERYONE to see.

This is hookering not the flipping secret service, we are not entering into a job of national security..its a bonk and we are entitled to have our anonymity upheld just as much as the guys.

I wont verify for these reasons above plus just on simple principle that asking us to verify and not the guys is insulting. I wont put my family security at risk and if that gets me slightly less bookings than the verified girls thats fine. If I ever end up meeting that ONE nutter then he doesnt know who I am or where I live nor does he know who my children are...that sort of peace of mind is priceless
 
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I can understand what you are saying, but if you are a serious business, you would be able to address your concerns - e.g. post your verification photo when you haven't been swimming and you are happy with how you look.
Why should we have too though, some of us keep our faces blurred for a reason and we all know that verification pictures get downloaded and shared around forums. If you upload a veri picture you may aswell just have your face showing. It happened to me when I stupidly put a face picture in a private gallery, I thought it would be a better option than verifying as at least that way the guys could see my face without seeing my official ID but oh look,, some knob downloaded it and posted it into a forum thread. I cant lie when he did my phone rang even more than usual till it was taken down but still, I have zero doubt that if that picture had my drivers licence with name and address clearly shown he would STILL have shared it around as if he has some sort of official right. You can thank him for my face pics being removed from my aw altogether x
 
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I can understand when a profile does not include photos of their face, but many WG's who show their face hide their verification photos - this is what I don't understand.
Because they dont verify for you,they verify for themselves and so long as aw can see the verification they get the V on their profile. Perhaps because of the ID issue as I listed above
 
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Now guys, imagine if you not only had to give every girl you see your ID but you had to have a picture of your face with your name and address under your chin for EVERYONE to see.
Not really relevant as I'm the one paying for a service not selling.

However if I was I would be buggered if I would have my morning mugshot there for all to see & personally I quite like the idea of the unknown facially so its not that important, looks is no guarantee of a good time but attitude is in my book.

Body shots are far more of a pre-punt turn on for me as I much prefer the girl next door look than a made up dolly bird any day of the week.
 
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Not really relevant as I'm the one paying for a service not selling.

However if I was I would be buggered if I would have my morning mugshot there for all to see & personally I quite like the idea of the unknown facially so its not that important, looks is no guarantee of a good time but attitude is in my book.

Body shots are far more of a pre-punt turn on for me as I much prefer the girl next door look than a made up dolly bird any day of the week.
It is entirely relevent as men are generally physically stronger than women and many escorts are attacked, robbed and hurt in bookings every day. The guy then runs out and all we have is a random phone number not registered to anyones name and an aw account username that was set up at some random internet cafe 3 years ago. Just because guys are buying sex from us does not mean they are entitled to know our real names, addresses, date of birth and passport or drivers licence serial number

The verification process is basically saying a mans right to see the face of some woman he might not even want to fuck is far more important than her personal security...I strongly disagree with this. A guy can always walk away at the door if he doenst like what he sees, if someone has our address and causes us issues we have to move house, move our children to a different school then possibly spend years trying to salvage family relationships.

There is simply no comparison between the two so if we have to verify then the guys should verify. Sorry if I sound a bit ranty on this thread, its something I feel very strongly about

This entire industry is built on discretion but it seems that some feel we do not have the right to enjoy that discretion also. This is what annoys me when I hear guys saying that aw is stacked in favour of the escort, believe me, its not
 
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It is entirely relevent as me are generally physically stronger than women and many escorts are attacked, robbed and hurt in bookings every day. The guy then rus out and all we have is a random phone number not registered to anyones name. Just because you are buying sex from us does not mean you are entitled to know our real names, addresses, date of birth and passport or drivers licence serial number
Lets leave it at that because out of respect for admin's wishes I have no intention of causing friction between members.

What I will say is please read again what aspect of your post I deemed irrelevant.
 
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Lets leave it at that because out of respect for admin's wishes I have no intention of causing friction between members.

What I will say is please read again what aspect of your post I deemed irrelevant.
I have, still have the same opinion though. We are allowed to debate and disagree on here surely over a subject without it being classed as bickering. I have no negative feelings about you, we just have differerent opinions on a subect thats all. Happy to leave it although perhaps admin can clarify what he classes as bickering. I assumed it meant a tit for tat argument that starts to get nasty or personal. No friction here xx
 
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I have, still have the same opinion though. We are allowed to debate and disagree on here surely over a subject without it being classed as bickering. I have no negative feelings about you, we just have differerent opinions on a subect thats all. Happy to leave it although perhaps admin can clarify what he classes as bickering. I assumed it meant a tit for tat argument that starts to get nasty or personal. No friction here xx
As I'm not well known for my tact & diplomacy I will leave it at that as I get the feeling you will never really understand my point.
 
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I had mine hidden because I don't show my face, and I work in a rural/low population area. I also have other things I do outside of Escorting.

A couple of years ago I did unhide the photo. Earlier this year I received a text from an unknown to me number telling me he was local man and didn't think it was wise to have my photo showing.

OK it is my choice and judgement, I did then think sod it and hid it again.

I've not had any complaints and have not seen any change in business.

It is however probably prudent because of the sensitive area in which I do work (not only Escort work). Yes anyone can sign up and access my PG, but there's bring blatant, and just making it a bit less 'in yer face'.
 
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As I'm not well known for my tact & diplomacy I will leave it at that as I get the feeling you will never really understand my point.
No I do but this industry isnt like others so Im happy to agree to disagree. Im not really known for my tact and diplomacy either so I guess this could in theory be a conversational match made in hell lol . Have a lovely day, no hard feelings xx
 
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Yorkshire123 has said that, if he was an SP he certainly would not have his face photo displayed.

There is no disagreement.
No I know, its worrying though that he is worried about breaking the bickering rule just for a mild disagreement and he does have a point. At what point is a thread classed as bickering, I certianly dont want to break the one rule we have either yet an exchange of ideas an multiple opinions are always going to lead to disagreements over certain things, it just doesnt have to be an angry exchange, this was not that at all. Where is the line ? The obvious would be when an insult is thrown. I viewed this as a disagreement over one thing albeit a friendly one
 
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I think the trend of aw asking girls to hold up personal identification in their veri pix is one reason. Who wants a load of strangers to know their name, address, date of birth and drivers licence number, Id cloning stealing does occur on out wonderful planet. Its literally begging someone to blackmail you or to turn up at your house and leaflet your entire neighbourhood

Also holding up sign saying adultwork and your username disolves any possible denyability we may have should our aw account become known to friends and family members

Now guys, imagine if you not only had to give every girl you see your ID but you had to have a picture of your face with your name and address under your chin for EVERYONE to see.

This is hookering not the flipping secret service, we are not entering into a job of national security..its a bonk and we are entitled to have our anonymity upheld just as much as the guys.

I wont verify for these reasons above plus just on simple principle that asking us to verify and not the guys is insulting. I wont put my family security at risk and if that gets me slightly less bookings than the verified girls thats fine. If I ever end up meeting that ONE nutter then he doesnt know who I am or where I live nor does he know who my children are...that sort of peace of mind is priceless
Well said, Chloe!
 
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Not really relevant as I'm the one paying for a service not selling.

However if I was I would be buggered if I would have my morning mugshot there for all to see & personally I quite like the idea of the unknown facially so its not that important, looks is no guarantee of a good time but attitude is in my book.

Body shots are far more of a pre-punt turn on for me as I much prefer the girl next door look than a made up dolly bird any day of the week.
If hell froze over I wouldn't give any of my real details to A/W as its run by low lifes in my opinion so I have zero trust in them. What a WG decides to do is of course up to her.
 
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The EE girls who show their ID cards let you know the difference in the age they state vs the age on the ID, usually about 8-10 years

I believe the AW rules say the pic has to be without makeup or any photoshopping so the kind of pics you get are like passport photos and some of those look pretty bad no matter if you're a WG, punter or anyone else.
 
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Verification pictures are of little use to the punter, at most it might stop half hearted pranksters. Pictures can be photoshopped and verification does not stop bait and switch and other dodgy practices. I have seen East Europeans showing passports where the age does not match so I doubt if adultwork ever check them. Romanians are nearly always verified but that does not stop some of their dubious practices. It is shocking that adultwork abuse their near monopoly by coercing providers (even webcammers) to give identity details to basically a pimp in who knows where.
 
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My verification pic's not hidden. Although I am slightly 'smaller' since I was verified and have had a hair cut.

Now I'm going to read the rest of the replies.
 
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It is entirely relevent as men are generally physically stronger than women and many escorts are attacked, robbed and hurt in bookings every day. The guy then runs out and all we have is a random phone number not registered to anyones name and an aw account username that was set up at some random internet cafe 3 years ago. Just because guys are buying sex from us does not mean they are entitled to know our real names, addresses, date of birth and passport or drivers licence serial number

The verification process is basically saying a mans right to see the face of some woman he might not even want to fuck is far more important than her personal security...I strongly disagree with this. A guy can always walk away at the door if he doenst like what he sees, if someone has our address and causes us issues we have to move house, move our children to a different school then possibly spend years trying to salvage family relationships.

There is simply no comparison between the two so if we have to verify then the guys should verify. Sorry if I sound a bit ranty on this thread, its something I feel very strongly about

This entire industry is built on discretion but it seems that some feel we do not have the right to enjoy that discretion also. This is what annoys me when I hear guys saying that aw is stacked in favour of the escort, believe me, its not
To my understanding the only point of the AW verification process is to give the false impression that the site has stricter regulations than it actual does.From verification pictures I have seen where new members have failed to conceal them they frequently do not match the person in the profile pictures or description.Ages do not have to match.The only thing that AW appear to enforce is the correct nationality.A false stamp of authentication is worse than none at all.

Chloe , not quite sure what your point is in the quoted post.It sounds like you may be suggesting that service users should have to provide verification ID which would be a total non starter and sound the death knell for the site.For the vast majority of punters discretion is of paramount importance and so they would look elsewhere.I personally book via phone and bypass the AW booking system altogether.

I , and I am sure most other punters , do not expect or even wish to know any personal details of the escorts they see.Furthermore I do not think that escorts should be obliged to show any face pictures or anything that could compromise their discretion is they do not want to.

As to later points in this thread about squabbling I take the view that this site is a place for serious debate as well as the more fun stuff.People will not always agree but by openly discussing things in a civil and friendly manner they will ultimately reach a better mutual understanding.For me one of SAAFE's failings is that too many members ( there are several exceptions ) just seem to agree with whatever is said , however ridiculous , and no progress or resolution of issues comes from that.
 
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#38
I have seen a few non-verified profiles, but most appear to be verified. I've never given this much thought, and luckily everyone I've seen has been who they said they were.
I'm fine with people not booking me on the fact that I'm not verified if the alternative is having my profile removed, my feedback then going and losing the credits I've made from my PG.
I was made to verify when I first joined (someone flagged my profile as potentially fake) so I had to give them my passport details, which I detested doing
So am I right in thinking that any WG can set up a profile without being verified, and they only have to verify if AW ask you to?

And that AW will only ask you to verify if someone flags your profile as potentially fake?

What makes AW delete a profile? (Clearly they don't delete a profile just because it's not verified.) Is deleting only done if it can't be verified after profile is flagged as potentially fake?

Is there any other reason that AW would ask you to verify?

Does being verified give you any increased privileges/features/safeguards/fees, compared to not being verified?
 
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If hell froze over I wouldn't give any of my real details to A/W as its run by low lifes in my opinion so I have zero trust in them. What a WG decides to do is of course up to her.
Once upon a time verification didnt exist, men merrily punted their way up and down the British Isles. Then aw brought it in for some random reason. Now I see guys posting all over the place that they only punt with verified ladies nowadays. What interests me is what would these guys do if aw verification stopped, would they just stop punting? If they would continue punting then that sort of negates the reasons they have for only going with verified now.
 
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Verification doesn't make much difference to me, it is far more important to have good feedback from established punters and positive reviews on UKP.
 
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Verification is absolutely no guarantee to the authenticity of the WG!

Only UKE & UKP provide us with any possibility of certainty.
 
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I'm fine with people not booking me on the fact that I'm not verified if the alternative is having my profile removed, my feedback then going and losing the credits I've made from my PG.

I've also seen warnings from other WG's on saafe where they've uploaded a driving license/passport and some slip of the system has had that photo (real full name and address) show up as a completely separate WG's profile pic. I'm happy with the number of bookings I get and won't verify again even if that means losing some potential bookings.
Plus 1 :)
 
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Verification is absolutely no guarantee to the authenticity of the WG!

Only UKE & UKP provide us with any possibility of certainty.
It certainly doesn't mean that they provide the services that they offer or that that anything they say or show on their profiles are "verified!"
 
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Going back to my question of earlier this morning:

So, why does a WG verify?

Is it only under threat of deletion, or are there any benefits from AW in being verified (increased privileges/features/safeguards)?

And is threat of deletion only because a profile is flagged as potentially fake, or are there other reasons AW threaten to delete?

Does it cost more to be verified?
 
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Even I'm confused now.

AW verification system....
AW verification is shit & if I was on the game there wouldn't be a hope in hell of me showing my face/identification & bowing to their demands to do so.

(However it is their platform & nobody is forced to advertise on it, It's a business & they are entitled to run it how they wish)

The irrelevance comment....
As a punter it is impossible for me to imagine a situation where I would have to advertise my punt buying requirements that would require me to show any form of ID.
Granted some girls ask for pictures pre-punt & I have no doubt some silly buggers send them but this flat cap wearing whippet walking old man would tell them to shove it.
Thus asking a punter to imagine something that is so unpalatable & rare is what spurned my irrelevance comment.
 
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AFAIK non-UK girls have to verify?? Also anyone whose profile is reported or queried etc.

As others have said though, it's pretty pointless, as seen by how easy it is for Sergei to set up several at once, sell on a profile, bait and switch etc. etc. Also, AW never use the info to control e.g. age or nationality on the profile itself.
 
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Even I'm confused now.

AW verification system....
AW verification is shit & if I was on the game there wouldn't be a hope in hell of me showing my face/identification & bowing to their demands to do so.

(However it is their platform & nobody is forced to advertise on it, It's a business & they are entitled to run it how they wish)

The irrelevance comment....
As a punter it is impossible for me to imagine a situation where I would have to advertise my punt buying requirements that would require me to show any form of ID.
Granted some girls ask for pictures pre-punt & I have no doubt some silly buggers send them but this flat cap wearing whippet walking old man would tell them to shove it.
Thus asking a punter to imagine something that is so unpalatable & rare is what spurned my irrelevance comment.
Im sure fifteen years ago it was impossible for anyone, punter or escort, imagining a situation where an escort would have to reveal her true identity on a forum and the expectation of such would have been deemed laughable, just as it should be now. Prior to aw existing US showing our identity and ID was im sure equally as unpalatable, as it still is to me

Dont get me wrong, I dont WANT the clients to have to verify, if its come over that way then I explained myself incorrectly, its just that if the escorts do I can think of no earthly reason why the clients wouldnt have to also, no earthly reason that couldnt also be applied to escorts also should I say
 
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