The good, the bad, and the... in-between

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We all have good days and bad days at work. I would guess that one of the biggest influences on whether you enjoy a day or not is who you see. So...

What proportion of punters are 'good' punters, 'bad' punters or in-between?

I'm guessing that there's a difference in that proportion when comparing new punters to regulars, because you keep the good ones, right? Or is that more like get rid if the bad?

And of course, all us UKE members will naturally assume we're in the 'good' set :rolleyes:
 
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I have been very lucky in that I have had reletavly few 'bad punters'. I just don't book them again, and the reasons for them being a bad punter are diverse. The inbetweens are few as well and I can usually find something nice about most people. What puts me in a very bad mood and spoils my day and has almost had me packing it all in are, no shows, time wasters, wankers and fantasists.
 
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I have been very lucky in that I have had reletavly few 'bad punters'. I just don't book them again, and the reasons for them being a bad punter are diverse. The inbetweens are few as well and I can usually find something nice about most people. What puts me in a very bad mood and spoils my day and has almost had me packing it all in are, no shows, time wasters, wankers and fantasists.
Can you define what you mean by "wankers and fantasists"?

Threads like this can often be helpful to punters to make sure we dont inadvertently overstep the mark or avoid certain behavioural traits.
 
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This might be another thread in its own right, but what constitutes a time waster? They seem to be the bane of escorts everywhere.

Either I'm so far removed from being a time waster I can't quite comprehend it :thumbsup:, or I'm so completely unaware and I'm doing it all the time :thumbsdown:.


That could easily be a special service in this game :rolleyes:.
 
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Wankers, phone up and start the conversation quite normally. Asking about availability etc, what will I or won't do. Then go on to ask what I will wear for them, how will the session will go etc. All the time wanking, probably while viewing pics. You know as soon as they start rambling on and then you hear the catch in their voice.
Fantasists come up with outlandish scenarios usually by text or email as opposed to the wanker on the phone.
Time wasters and no shows book with no intention of showing up. I have turned down potentially good bookings and even regs to be left with a no show. Now regs get preferential bookings before newbies.
 
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Wankers, phone up and start the conversation quite normally. Asking about availability etc, what will I or won't do. Then go on to ask what I will wear for them, how will the session will go etc. All the time wanking, probably while viewing pics. You know as soon as they start rambling on and then you hear the catch in their voice.
Fantasists come up with outlandish scenarios usually by text or email as opposed to the wanker on the phone.
Time wasters and no shows book with no intention of showing up. I have turned down potentially good bookings and even regs to be left with a no show. Now regs get preferential bookings before newbies.
Great insight and information :D Thank you Carmel :hi::drinks:.
I wish I'd had such good information back in my own more active punting days ( not that I ever did such things even then, of course !
 
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This might be another thread in its own right, but what constitutes a time waster? They seem to be the bane of escorts everywhere.

Either I'm so far removed from being a time waster I can't quite comprehend it :thumbsup:, or I'm so completely unaware and I'm doing it all the time :thumbsdown:.




That could easily be a special service in this game :rolleyes:.
Someone who phones or emails with the intention of engaging you, but no intention of booking. Sometimes they'll say that they are 'nervous', this is distinctly different to an enquiry from someone who is genuinely nervous.

I've had a guy contact me at various intervals over the last 6 years asking questions by email, using various contact forms on various directories, email within AW, contact me on another forum, and also has sent me a few text messages. Each time he'll act as if it's a new enquiry but I can tell it's him by the name he uses.

I receive other enquiries which start asking me to describe services in depth, sometimes you can hear them wanking, sometimes not, but they'll phone back and ask the same things. Some enquire about bookings for weeks, months, years and there's never a time that fits their schedule, the time is never right for them.

Then there are many different shades in between.

Regards actual clients, sometimes there'll be clients who are fine in person, but a nightmare to arrange a booking with, others who are plain rude (accuse me of being 'never available' yet they have only contacted me on 2 occasions over 12 months, both last minute on a Sunday evening (doesn't particularly matter which evening but I think you'll get the gist). Some will hang around and will not leave at the end of a booking, others chop and change and cancel and forget as many times as they see you. I'll start to not want to accept a booking and will usually tell whoever it is what the problem is, he then has chance to change his behaviour. Some do, some don't, some won't come back. If someone comes back and carries on whatever behaviour I've mentioned, then I'll ban them.

I once had a client who would book 1 hour, then extend to 90 minutes on arrival. Ok no big deal. For the duration of the booking he wanted prolonged wanking and oral whilst standing over me which had to be totally handsfree, if I put my hands on his thighs to control the thrusts, or at least have somewhere to put my hands, he'd forcefully knock them away. He also had a habit of dribbling down his lip onto his chest whilst I did this. He'd wank and facefuck away right up until time.

Ok fair enough he's booked the time, but I don't offer PSE or facefucking and am not interested in 90 minutes of the same oral. He also had really smelly armpits, which were still smelly after a shower. He was really down in the dumps about everything which he told me about whilst on his way out. I generally felt the booking shorter, always extending was another way of him being in control. I brought up the things that made me feel uncomfortable, but he didn't change them.

In the end I told him I couldn't provide the service he wanted, and didn't see him again.
 
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I once had a client who would book 1 hour, then extend to 90 minutes on arrival. Ok no big deal. For the duration of the booking he wanted prolonged wanking and oral whilst standing over me which had to be totally handsfree, if I put my hands on his thighs to control the thrusts, or at least have somewhere to put my hands, he'd forcefully knock them away. He also had a habit of dribbling down his lip onto his chest whilst I did this. He'd wank and facefuck away right up until time.

Crikey! I know we're all different but that's world away from what I would want from a punt.

As for the initial contact I do wonder if I'm sometimes too brief. I usually ring and introduce myself and tell them where I got their no from and then politely ask them if they're available for an In-call for say an hour at such and such a time/date. If they are, the usual procedure for address is discussed and then it's basically goodbye. It seems to work.
 
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Ffs.
If it's a girl I want to see .
Research on UKP:thumbsup:
Phone .
Book
Balls deep within ...
As little time as possible :cool:
Some times an hour some times next day ...
Life's too short for faffing about .
 
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With someone new, I usually just book and turn up, then go with the flow.

With someone I've seen before, or with a new girl where I'm pretty sure it's OK, I will indulge in my fondness for some flirty messages before the meet. This is the bit where I'm always fearful that I might become the dreaded time waster, so I do try to watch myself and make sure the volume is low.
 
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I once had a client who would book 1 hour, then extend to 90 minutes on arrival. Ok no big deal. For the duration of the booking he wanted prolonged wanking and oral whilst standing over me which had to be totally handsfree, if I put my hands on his thighs to control the thrusts, or at least have somewhere to put my hands, he'd forcefully knock them away. He also had a habit of dribbling down his lip onto his chest whilst I did this. He'd wank and facefuck away right up until time.

Sorry Strawberryblonde - I know this must have been unpleasant for you :(

But fuck me you've just given me the horn writing this:dash:
 
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This does at least explain the 100% hesitancy I receive when I first make a call. Almost like you are labelled a timewaster before you open your mouth.

That is why I quickly say 'I would like to put a booking through AW for 4pm' At that point the conversation thaws and its all easy peasy.

Necessary part of the business I suppose...
 
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I guess with agency work there is at least the advantage that you do not have to deal with the various genres of time waster ; from the elaborate fantasists down to the ' I've got a huge cock , can I have a freebie hehehhe ' morons.

What are the less obvious things that some clients do during a booking that you dislike or make you feel uncomfortable ?

Also , honestly please , what proportion of your clients to you prefer to be Don Juans who give you multiple orgasms and leave you a sweaty mess ! Can seeing a few super studs in a day be exhausting ? Are 'easier' less intense , no orgasm bookings sometimes a relief ?
 
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The one's I see have all been good because I only see the nice ones ;)

But I do get some interesting messages/phone calls. I spend a lot of time on the odd occasions I show my number rolling my eyes.

Also, while I love to orgasm it's not necessary for me to enjoy sex because I love sex on its own. I find guys think that unless you orgasm you don't enjoy it, I wish someone would kill that myth.
 
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I guess with agency work there is at least the advantage that you do not have to deal with the various genres of time waster ; from the elaborate fantasists down to the ' I've got a huge cock , can I have a freebie hehehhe ' morons.

What are the less obvious things that some clients do during a booking that you dislike or make you feel uncomfortable ?

Also , honestly please , what proportion of your clients to you prefer to be Don Juans who give you multiple orgasms and leave you a sweaty mess ! Can seeing a few super studs in a day be exhausting ? Are 'easier' less intense , no orgasm bookings sometimes a relief ?
A "less intense" meeting - yes :).
A "no orgasm for the lady" meeting - NO :(
 
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The one's I see have all been good because I only see the nice ones ;)

But I do get some interesting messages/phone calls. I spend a lot of time on the odd occasions I show my number rolling my eyes.

Also, while I love to orgasm it's not necessary for me to enjoy sex because I love sex on its own. I find guys think that unless you orgasm you don't enjoy it, I wish someone would kill that myth.
BTW, I just LOVE tall red-heads ;).
When I was younger, I would have liked to at least try to give you an orgasm with my tongue :D:lol:
 
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BTW, I just LOVE tall red-heads ;).
When I was younger, I would have liked to at least try to give you an orgasm with my tongue :D:lol:
Not saying I don't orgasm, I do, PLENTY! But I don't need it to really love sex ;)

If you love tall redheads come and pay me a visit! xx
 
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Ooohh Errrr ! A very tempting thought, but a long way from here to Nottingham / Derby :(
It's worth it ;)

Or even better, come and see me and Mandy next month. This is a once in a blue moon event! And I really can't wait!! :yahoo:
 
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Screening helps, so I'd say <5% of my bookings are bad. They've been with e.g. two younger men who had learning difficulties (not picked up in the phone call), men with bad hygiene, who were rough/clueless etc. About 10-15% are fantastic, just when you really click with someone and have great natural chemistry. The reminder I'd say 50% good, 30% nothing special, but nothing to complain about either.

I only ever see one or two clients a day, so the type/duration of booking doesn't really make much difference. And they're all enjoyable in their different ways.

I've sort of developed a Zen-like attitude to phone timewasters, but it is really annoying when someone confirms then don't show so I've got ready for nothing, especially when I'm busy in my other job.
 
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Screening helps, so I'd say <5% of my bookings are bad... About 10-15% are fantastic, just when you really click with someone and have great natural chemistry. The reminder I'd say 50% good, 30% nothing special, but nothing to complain about either.
An excellent summary. Thanks for taking the time to post.

I'm happy to see that most are good or better.
 
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Most people who visit are pleasant as they want a good time. You get the odd one with no social skills who makes it uncomfortable and then you get the ones who think as they have paid they own you and you have to do what they say when they snap their fingers. The second two never get the phone answered again but the first are more than welcome back
 
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I get great meets but one guy I met said that he was going to do all sorts he turned up and lay like a corpse boooo so much for being Dominate " why did I leave all these toys out " ?are you not going to fuck my face then ? again Booo lol
 
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I get great meets but one guy I met said that he was going to do all sorts he turned up and lay like a corpse boooo so much for being Dominate " why did I leave all these toys out " ?are you not going to fuck my face then ? again Booo lol
I try to stick to saying I'll do things that I've already done - precisely so that I know that I'll be able to do them. If we're going to experiment (from my point of view), I'll tell you.

And yes, I'll fuck your face if that's what you need :)
 
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The huge majority are good, the rest are mostly in between, a small number are bad but thats okay because I dont see them again. By bad I dont mean aggressive, just perhaps stinky or Mr Plank, Mr Plank just has no personality or conversation, a crash test dummy on the bed with a cock waving around in the air, its just so....*sigh*

Thankfully most guys DO have a personality and wit and bring them along for the adventure
 
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To echo the others on here - screening is helpful and the ones that actually show up are there for a good time so most bookings are great! Only ever had one truly awful (abusive and penniless) experience at the beginning which taught me how to screen better, so now the vast majority are great and remind me that I have the best job. The ones that are frustrating are the ones who don't show up/text speak/haggle/haven't read your profile/ask for services you don't offer etc but then you don't have to deal with them in person so it isn't too much of a problem :)
 
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