supporting WG during coronavirus

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Ok I expect to be showered in vitriol and accused of being a creepy self deluded EAS sufferer but this is my view:

Many of the SPa we gave enjoyed seeing have seen their income disappear and we should support them if only to have a service to go back to.

I am not talking about girls I have seen one off as a plan B when I felt horny but one or maybe two I have seen regularly over many years and we have had great times.

I am not talking about paying their rent but maybe the value of one booking that I would have had with them. maybe keeping in touch and buying their private gallery photos, webcam is not on because of family around.

I am lucky: I have a fixed salary that will continue, am paying less on petrol, drinks and meals out and shopping but still have the money I would spend on punting.

I am already supporting the NHS and food banks and giving extra to my kids for unexpected expenses like my daughter who works for the NHS has to pay extra horse livery as she can't visit.

I am supporting local businesses and especially those that have adapted to say delivery services.

punting has been a great source of fun and enjoyment to me and all I am doing is offering to one, maybe two long term regulars some of the money they would have got from me. I don't expect any " favours" or freebies but we will have a bloody good shag together when it is over!

I as sure there will be a torrent of abuse: am I finding my local car wash full of EE males? no, but local business yes.
 
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I wouldn't knock your generosity, but UC is available, and we're still hoping for some sort of income replacement scheme for the self-employed from the Treasury. There's also loads of jobs going at supermarkets.

I appreciate it's a different type of relationship, but lots of self-employed people are up shit creek - cleaners, gardeners, hairdressers, etc. etc.
 
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I wouldn't knock your generosity, but UC is available, and we're still hoping for some sort of income replacement scheme for the self-employed from the Treasury. There's also loads of jobs going at supermarkets.

I appreciate it's a different type of relationship, but lots of self-employed people are up shit creek - cleaners, gardeners, hairdressers, etc. etc.
Yep, completely agree. If I posted this about my local independent wine merchant, I’d expect to be vilified. Everybody has different levels of charity so just make your own judgement if you want to help out.
 
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Ok I expect to be showered in vitriol and accused of being a creepy self deluded EAS sufferer but this is my view:

Many of the SPa we gave enjoyed seeing have seen their income disappear and we should support them if only to have a service to go back to.

I am not talking about girls I have seen one off as a plan B when I felt horny but one or maybe two I have seen regularly over many years and we have had great times.

I am not talking about paying their rent but maybe the value of one booking that I would have had with them. maybe keeping in touch and buying their private gallery photos, webcam is not on because of family around.

I am lucky: I have a fixed salary that will continue, am paying less on petrol, drinks and meals out and shopping but still have the money I would spend on punting.

I am already supporting the NHS and food banks and giving extra to my kids for unexpected expenses like my daughter who works for the NHS has to pay extra horse livery as she can't visit.

I am supporting local businesses and especially those that have adapted to say delivery services.

punting has been a great source of fun and enjoyment to me and all I am doing is offering to one, maybe two long term regulars some of the money they would have got from me. I don't expect any " favours" or freebies but we will have a bloody good shag together when it is over!

I as sure there will be a torrent of abuse: am I finding my local car wash full of EE males? no, but local business yes.
You have a good heart, be careful it’s not taken advantage of
 
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Ok I expect to be showered in vitriol and accused of being a creepy self deluded EAS sufferer but this is my view:

Many of the SPa we gave enjoyed seeing have seen their income disappear and we should support them if only to have a service to go back to.

I am not talking about girls I have seen one off as a plan B when I felt horny but one or maybe two I have seen regularly over many years and we have had great times.

I am not talking about paying their rent but maybe the value of one booking that I would have had with them. maybe keeping in touch and buying their private gallery photos, webcam is not on because of family around.

I am lucky: I have a fixed salary that will continue, am paying less on petrol, drinks and meals out and shopping but still have the money I would spend on punting.

I am already supporting the NHS and food banks and giving extra to my kids for unexpected expenses like my daughter who works for the NHS has to pay extra horse livery as she can't visit.

I am supporting local businesses and especially those that have adapted to say delivery services.

punting has been a great source of fun and enjoyment to me and all I am doing is offering to one, maybe two long term regulars some of the money they would have got from me. I don't expect any " favours" or freebies but we will have a bloody good shag together when it is over!

I as sure there will be a torrent of abuse: am I finding my local car wash full of EE males? no, but local business yes.
Do what you want to do, why do you feel you need the approval of others, are you concerned about EAS? I think I’ll be uncomfortable if any of my regulars offered obviously then being beholden to them
 
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Do what you want to do, why do you feel you need the approval of others, are you concerned about EAS? I think I’ll be uncomfortable if any of my regulars offered obviously then being beholden to them
“Ah come on, just an extra half hour / service not on your list / any other boundary push. You know I helped you out when you were desperate. Simper simper.”

I can just imagine it now.
 
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Ok I expect to be showered in vitriol and accused of being a creepy self deluded EAS sufferer but this is my view:

Many of the SPa we gave enjoyed seeing have seen their income disappear and we should support them if only to have a service to go back to.

I am not talking about girls I have seen one off as a plan B when I felt horny but one or maybe two I have seen regularly over many years and we have had great times.

I am not talking about paying their rent but maybe the value of one booking that I would have had with them. maybe keeping in touch and buying their private gallery photos, webcam is not on because of family around.

I am lucky: I have a fixed salary that will continue, am paying less on petrol, drinks and meals out and shopping but still have the money I would spend on punting.

I am already supporting the NHS and food banks and giving extra to my kids for unexpected expenses like my daughter who works for the NHS has to pay extra horse livery as she can't visit.

I am supporting local businesses and especially those that have adapted to say delivery services.

punting has been a great source of fun and enjoyment to me and all I am doing is offering to one, maybe two long term regulars some of the money they would have got from me. I don't expect any " favours" or freebies but we will have a bloody good shag together when it is over!

I as sure there will be a torrent of abuse: am I finding my local car wash full of EE males? no, but local business yes.
Did you post this on UKP too? I can remember some parts of it.

What a lovely man you are for being so generous.

Do you want my account number?
 
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I floated a suggestion in the other thread - paying some “credit” now towards a future booking, to be redeemed after the crises.

I don’t think anyone thought it was a good idea, and it was even suggested that it would come across as “creepy”.

I’ve not completely written off the idea, but I’m not rushing to do it right now either.
I would be very uncomfortable accepting money in lieu of future services from any of my clients, including regulars

So many self employed people are in dire straits, use your punting pot to up your contributions to the food bank, homeless shelters, children's charities, animal charities etc

If you're regular asks for help then make it an official loan on 0% interest
 
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I floated a suggestion in the other thread - paying some “credit” now towards a future booking, to be redeemed after the crises.

I don’t think anyone thought it was a good idea, and it was even suggested that it would come across as “creepy”.

I’ve not completely written off the idea, but I’m not rushing to do it right now either.
its a good idea at the point of need but difficult to call in........
 
#21
Yep, completely agree. If I posted this about my local independent wine merchant, I’d expect to be vilified. Everybody has different levels of charity so just make your own judgement if you want to help out.
Why would you expect to be vilified? I have continued to pay my membership fees to a struggling business that has frozen payments unless you have opted otherwise. Won't get anything back, but want them to survive and come back.
 
#22
I floated a suggestion in the other thread - paying some “credit” now towards a future booking, to be redeemed after the crises.

I don’t think anyone thought it was a good idea, and it was even suggested that it would come across as “creepy”.

I’ve not completely written off the idea, but I’m not rushing to do it right now either.
Tbh, you might be better just donating the money, rather than asking for credit if you really wish to be altruistic.
 
#23
Why would you expect to be vilified? I have continued to pay my membership fees to a struggling business that has frozen payments unless you have opted otherwise. Won't get anything back, but want them to survive and come back.
I was making a point that certain items may seem frivolous. Anyone can do what they want, just don’t see the point of broadcasting it.
 
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I would be very uncomfortable accepting money in lieu of future services from any of my clients, including regulars
Thank you for the feedback.:thumbsup:

So many self employed people are in dire straits, use your punting pot to up your contributions to the food bank, homeless shelters, children's charities, animal charities etc
Already contribute in many ways.

If you're regular asks for help then make it an official loan on 0% interest
I did once have an SP that had seen 3 times text me and ask if I would lend her £300. I didn’t reply and never saw her again.

In my mind, booking extra sessions to help an SP out would be far more acceptable. But right now the only way to do that would be book future sessions.

I’m not saying my idea was a good one, I just threw it out there for discussion, and have received some useful feedback as to why it might not be a very good idea.
 
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Thank you for the feedback.:thumbsup:


Already contribute in many ways.


I did once have an SP that had seen 3 times text me and ask if I would lend her £300. I didn’t reply and never saw her again.

In my mind, booking extra sessions to help an SP out would be far more acceptable. But right now the only way to do that would be book future sessions.

I’m not saying my idea was a good one, I just threw it out there for discussion, and have received some useful feedback as to why it might not be a very good idea.
How many other services would you pay for in lieu so to speak? Without knowing a “start date?” if at all?
 
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I would be very uncomfortable accepting money in lieu of future services from any of my clients, including regulars

So many self employed people are in dire straits, use your punting pot to up your contributions to the food bank, homeless shelters, children's charities, animal charities etc

If you're regular asks for help then make it an official loan on 0% interest
I would prefer to go and shag them (take the risk in the circumstances) than have a favour dangling over both of our heads.
 
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#33
I gave a fiver to someone who was begging looking for money for a hostel on Monday at the train station.
Probably partly influenced by the fact she was carrying a really sweet looking black cat :thumbsup:

She tried showing me some jewelry she had made saying i could buy it for someone but I was more interested in working out how creepy it would look if i asked to stroke the cat :unknown:
 
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How many other services would you pay for in lieu so to speak? Without knowing a “start date?” if at all?
Certainly no more than one session with each of two SP’s that believe I can trust. More likely just a part payment towards a future booking.

It would only make a difference to them if others did the same. Which is another reason I floated the idea on the other thread.

Sorry, I miss understood your question:
How many other services would you pay for in lieu so to speak? Without knowing a “start date?” if at all?
I pay deposits towards various other things in advance but, yes, I normally know the date.

However two things that I have arranged in the summer have been cancelled, and I decided to leave the deposit with the supplier for new date TBA after this is over. I made this decision based on having worked well with them in the past, knowing that (as single operators) they are struggling with all the cancellations that they are getting, and not wanting them to completely go out of business so that I can work with them in the future.

Obviously I have weighed that up against the fact that they might still fold and I might loose my money.

The way I see it, is we all need to support each other as much as we can in this difficult time.

PS: I’m not trying to justify doing the same with SP’s, as that is a different interaction. But just giving sone background to my reasoning.
 
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#39
OP you obviously have a kind heart,when it's all over and we are all back to "business as usual" instead of maybe your regular half hour or 1 hour bookings you could extend them to 2 hours etc thus enjoying yourself more and your extra financial support will help the Escort out.
 
#40
I’ve been thinking this and feel bad for people with suddenly no income but currently my situation means ‘charity starts at home’ and I need to make sure my own family is provided for while my income is limited.

Now is when people realise it’s a good idea to make sure they’re paying their fair share of tax as hopefully they will be able to claim something based on previous tax years
 
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#41
I’ve been thinking this and feel bad for people with suddenly no income but currently my situation means ‘charity starts at home’ and I need to make sure my own family is provided for while my income is limited.

Now is when people realise it’s a good idea to make sure they’re paying their fair share of tax as hopefully they will be able to claim something based on previous tax years
Yes, i suspect there will some people loudly complaining when the packages for self employed people are finally announced
 
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Yes, i suspect there will some people loudly complaining when the packages for self employed people are finally announced
It's bound to happen as Rishi got a lot of flack for it. But unfortunately you can't really expect to get paid from HMRC to cover your income if you never paid income tax to HMRC in the first place.

I personally know self employed people who are shafted by this and won't really benefit from it when they do announce it for self employed people, because they didn't pay taxes. It tells you the importance of paying taxes.
 
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I wouldn't knock your generosity, but UC is available, and we're still hoping for some sort of income replacement scheme for the self-employed from the Treasury. There's also loads of jobs going at supermarkets.

I appreciate it's a different type of relationship, but lots of self-employed people are up shit creek - cleaners, gardeners, hairdressers, etc. etc.
Could not have put it any better.
 
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It's bound to happen as Rishi got a lot of flack for it. But unfortunately you can't really expect to get paid from HMRC to cover your income if you never paid income tax to HMRC in the first place.

It tells you the importance of paying taxes.
It is right that they got flack for it, you cannot tell people to stay home without giving them an indication of whether they will get paid enough to feed their family
 
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Nothing wrong with that, if only those who already cancelled could do exactly that! By all means feel free to message for account details :crazy:

Jokes aside, appreciate the thought behind the idea but only if it’s not an covert attempt at manipulation or “striking deals” with an SP later on :thumbsup:
 
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I floated a suggestion in the other thread - paying some “credit” now towards a future booking, to be redeemed after the crises.

I don’t think anyone thought it was a good idea, and it was even suggested that it would come across as “creepy”.

I’ve not completely written off the idea, but I’m not rushing to do it right now either.
If they're really good regulars that you think will need it, and you are pretty sure they'll honour it, go right ahead and fuck what anyone else thinks.
 
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I wouldn't accept cash at the moment. Why would I? Unfortunately, I smashed my crystal ball, and the replacement has clearly let me down. I don't know if or when I will be whoring again. Of course, if you are feeling generous, not many people would say no, me included. :P

Behind the scenes, I have daily messages asking how I am doing. Even before I had CV, asking about practical support and providing links. Nothing about bookings, unless in a jokey way, or as an opening, I'm X we met.. It's the moral support that we are giving each other that is getting myself, and those in contact through this. This is worth more than a deposit for a possible future booking.

And of course, all the well wishes etc on here and twitter.

I am not naive. I know there's an element of self-interest. Anyone who mentions this in the future as a way of striking a deal will be told to fuck off as I walk out of the door with their cash.
 
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#68
it makes us sound like charity cases that’s why it pissed me off.
Some men cannot resist the urge to save women from "perceived troubles".

Unfortunately a significant proportion of these messiahs are going to show the ladies they are saving, all new kinds of trouble.

Charitable people do stuff because that is what they are, they do not seek attention, credit or rewards. That's not what motivates them.

I am immediately suspicious of the "good deed notice me" brigade.
 
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Some men cannot resist the urge to save women from "perceived troubles".

Unfortunately a significant proportion of these messiahs are going to show the ladies they are saving, all new kinds of trouble.

Charitable people do stuff because that is what they are, they do not seek attention, credit or rewards. That's not what motivates them.

I am immediately suspicious of the "good deed notice me" brigade.
Are you suspicious about everything Bel?
 
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Some men cannot resist the urge to save women from "perceived troubles".

Unfortunately a significant proportion of these messiahs are going to show the ladies they are saving, all new kinds of trouble.

Charitable people do stuff because that is what they are, they do not seek attention, credit or rewards. That's not what motivates them.

I am immediately suspicious of the "good deed notice me" brigade.
Beware the "nice"! :thumbsup:
 
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#79
Your money your choice at the end of the day.
There’s no need to post about it or tell anyone, I always find that strange.

It is a trying time for many.
Some like to virtue signal.
I hope they push extra money to hairdressers, mechanics and cleaners they may also employ or use the services of and shout about it from the rooftops too. Suspect if these service providers aren't pretty and / or lack tits then their bank accounts will be pretty empty sadly.
 
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Ok I’m a newbie here so please be kind :) i have had one of my very trusted regulars do exactly what the OP has suggested. It was totally out of the blue and very unexpected. He sent me a text saying he wanted to make sure I wasn’t short on anything and had put an hours fee into my account for an advance booking once I was able to get back to work. I didn’t find it creepy at all, I was very touched by his kindness in fact. I don’t feel indebted to him because we have the level of trust between us that we both know I will see him as soon as it’s safe to do so and he knows that too. I guess it depends on both SS and the SP and what they are comfortable with but I would never expect an offer like this. For me personally, I feel blessed to have lovely clients that have sent messages of support in a crisis like this.
 
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Ok I’m a newbie here so please be kind :) i have had one of my very trusted regulars do exactly what the OP has suggested. It was totally out of the blue and very unexpected. He sent me a text saying he wanted to make sure I wasn’t short on anything and had put an hours fee into my account for an advance booking once I was able to get back to work. I didn’t find it creepy at all, I was very touched by his kindness in fact. I don’t feel indebted to him because we have the level of trust between us that we both know I will see him as soon as it’s safe to do so and he knows that too. I guess it depends on both SS and the SP and what they are comfortable with but I would never expect an offer like this. For me personally, I feel blessed to have lovely clients that have sent messages of support in a crisis like this.
I think most of us are pretty good at judging situations and people (comes with the territory right?) if you both feel comfortable with that then it’s up to you. Welcome to uke btw 😘

ps, it’s a very thoughtful gesture
 
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Jokes aside, appreciate the thought behind the idea but only if it’s not an covert attempt at manipulation or “striking deals” with an SP later on :thumbsup:
Unless getting to play the white knight is gratification enough in itself then putting brownie points in the bank will be somewhere in the thinking here. The fact that the ' investor ' has chosen women who offer sexual services, specifically ones whose services he wishes to use, says a lot for the underlying motivation and usually does in similar scenarios. This is certainly not comparable to the parable of the good Samaritan.
 
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Ok I’m a newbie here so please be kind :) i have had one of my very trusted regulars do exactly what the OP has suggested. It was totally out of the blue and very unexpected. He sent me a text saying he wanted to make sure I wasn’t short on anything and had put an hours fee into my account for an advance booking once I was able to get back to work. I didn’t find it creepy at all, I was very touched by his kindness in fact. I don’t feel indebted to him because we have the level of trust between us that we both know I will see him as soon as it’s safe to do so and he knows that too. I guess it depends on both SS and the SP and what they are comfortable with but I would never expect an offer like this. For me personally, I feel blessed to have lovely clients that have sent messages of support in a crisis like this.
welcome.........nice gesture will not be a saviour of a situ without customers for 3-6 weeks or more I suspect........for a trade where the per capita earn is circa £80-100k PA I find it strange that guys many on limited incomes or flat salaries if they are still being paid would support this.........
 
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#86
Nothing wrong with that, if only those who already cancelled could do exactly that! By all means feel free to message for account details :crazy:

Jokes aside, appreciate the thought behind the idea but only if it’s not an covert attempt at manipulation or “striking deals” with an SP later on :thumbsup:
correct or the SP welches on the deal............ie remembers all the "extras" over a period given.........this is just such a bad idea........
 
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welcome.........nice gesture will not be a saviour of a situ without customers for 3-6 weeks or more I suspect........for a trade where the per capita earn is circa £80-100k PA I find it strange that guys many on limited incomes or flat salaries if they are still being paid would support this.........
I do suspect most SP's are not earning that much though
 
#88
I think most of us are pretty good at judging situations and people (comes with the territory right?) if you both feel comfortable with that then it’s up to you. Welcome to uke btw 😘
I like to think that we are good at judging our clients and see it for what it really is. Thank you for the welcome :) looks like I’ve got quite a bit of time on my hands to work out how to use this site :sarcastic:
 
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