Is it my perception or is there now a general drift back to punting and escorting?

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#9
I have a booking for next week it'll be the first time i've punted since Jan.

From my perspective i've been working not been furloughed and the nature of my work means i can't work from home. I comply with social distancing i wear a mask in public etc.

I know it's probably selfish but i need a release.
 
#11
Not everything. I know that I’m not working, nor are girls I know. When I do go back, it will be no-guilt bookings only and very few bookings. Slowly, but surely. I had anticipated end of July/start August, but nothing is definite right now xx
 
#15
I've been in touch with four women in the last two weeks. Two are definitely working. The other two gave the impression that they are working.

Yesterday's session was my first since March, with another scheduled for Friday.

It's more or less business as usuaI but I won't be doing evening or overnight bookings until all of the restrictions are removed.
 
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Running a search with restrictions in London there are over 200 green lights in a smallish central area compared to say 300 pre-lockdown.
It's been like this for a couple of weeks now, one WG who has worked throught said it was quiet the first two weeks then busy as less "competition".
I know a couple of WGs who went back home and have not yet returned (please let it happen:angelgirl:).
Another couple who are not advertising (because they don't want to be judged) but seeing regulars.
And another couple who are not yet working at all (because they don't want to be judged)
 
#19
Noticed a big increase at the start of this month in new photos in the media section here and did wonder. I know for some it's to advertise their Only Fans, AW PGs and shizzle but I don't judge the others. They'll all have their reasons.

I can't see myself booking an Escort until there's a vaccine available to everyone and I've had my "little prick". :D
 
#21
Definitely an increase in activity. Quite a few reviews on AW for punts which clearly happened recently.
As WFH continues and not looking at return to office until September earliest then I won't be participating until at least then.
I think it's all down to risk assessment.The government is unwilling to provide any direction so everyone making their own decisions imo.
It may not get much better than this for a long time.
 
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#22
Yes I believe punting is back to normal. I anticipated it would be by now, as some SPs that depend on their escorting income, have commitments and need cash flow.

There seems to be punters available, whatever the risk unfortunately :scare:
Im sure that some will dip a toe with regs..........and wait to see if theres a reaction......Im no sure that Im going off the idea..........mebbe FWB it is then.....?....:cool:
 
#38
It's not a big stretch of the imagination to suggest what is happening with those profiles displaying a phone number...
Yup. If I was working, my phone number would be up and I’d be green on the days I’m available. It’s the same for most girls I know. It costs daily to have your number on display on AW, so not worth it if you aren’t working, or planning on working very soon xx
 
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Running a search with restrictions in London there are over 200 green lights in a smallish central area compared to say 300 pre-lockdown.
It's been like this for a couple of weeks now, one WG who has worked throught said it was quiet the first two weeks then busy as less "competition".
I know a couple of WGs who went back home and have not yet returned (please let it happen:angelgirl:).
Another couple who are not advertising (because they don't want to be judged) but seeing regulars.
And another couple who are not yet working at all (because they don't want to be judged)
Maybe mess about not wanting to be judged and more about being mindful that there is a pandemic and trying to be safe and cautious? Not everything is about perception...

But for me, I would have zero interest in seeing someone who punted during the height of a pandemic. It highlights a lack of regard for self or others and I am absolute about safety. Xx
 
#40
Noticed a big increase at the start of this month in new photos in the media section here and did wonder. I know for some it's to advertise their Only Fans, AW PGs and shizzle but I don't judge the others. They'll all have their reasons.

I can't see myself booking an Escort until there's a vaccine available to everyone and I've had my "little prick". :D
I can’t speak for everyone of course, but I have started posting more photos recently as I can see a window to possibly returning to work, within certain provisos, in the next month or so xx
 
#41
I can’t speak for everyone of course, but I have started posting more photos recently as I can see a window to possibly returning to work, within certain provisos, in the next month or so xx
I think you are correct Lady-Dita .... as public confidence rises and boredom increases as well as the need for income by some girls continues more will be punting
 
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I just had a look at AW and yes there are availability lights on, however, a check on some of the girls I've seen shows they haven't had feedback since before shutdown. So maybe a drift, but a pretty slow one overall. Girls who have restarted (or never stopped) may be busier however, I'm sure that'll be because there's less competition.

Although I really enjoy FK, with a respiratory virus, that's the most risky thing to indulge in. So when I do return to punting (no plans yet) I might have to forego that element. :(
 
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I've decided not to restart punting at the start of this month and will make another decision at the start of August. I haven't met an escort in years without it involving kissing. So that will influence my decision. I would prefer to see a SP I had seen before and it would doubly seem strange not to kiss them.

I am having a weekend Vienna in October. I don't think could go there and not visit a FKK when I am there. Legal, regulated and with Austrian government approval. I just hope there isn't a second wave.

One thing is certain I won't be doing a spur of the moment visit to a parlour like I have done on the past when I was feeling horny. My nearest one opened up in mid-June. I doubt if I will be visiting them again.
 
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I just had a look at AW and yes there are availability lights on, however, a check on some of the girls I've seen shows they haven't had feedback since before shutdown. So maybe a drift, but a pretty slow one overall. Girls who have restarted (or never stopped) may be busier however, I'm sure that'll be because there's less competition.

Although I really enjoy FK, with a respiratory virus, that's the most risky thing to indulge in. So when I do return to punting (no plans yet) I might have to forego that element. :(
AW removed the Escort booking form a week or two into lockdown apart from a small window a week or so ago when reverse bookings suddenly reappeared, the ability to use a booking form which then enables feedback to be left has not been available.
 
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AW removed the Escort booking form a week or two into lockdown apart from a small window a week or so ago when reverse bookings suddenly reappeared, the ability to use a booking form which then enables feedback to be left has not been available.
All about AW knowing meets are happening (despite their little social distancing reminder at the top of the profile) but not "officially"
 
#63
AW removed the Escort booking form a week or two into lockdown apart from a small window a week or so ago when reverse bookings suddenly reappeared, the ability to use a booking form which then enables feedback to be left has not been available.
You beat me to it. There’s no feedback because there’s no booking system. Doesn’t mean the escorts aren’t working.
 
#67
Those precautions go out the window when you "need a release" though.
As i said in my original post i've been working mon-fri some weekends as well there has been no lockdown for me. The only change has been wearing a mask and gloves and staying at home but when not at work.

Restaurants and pubs are open, gyms will be open at the end of the month. Checked AW and saw a reg was taking bookings and made the arrangements.

Edit - Just want to add i don't at all think i've had things harder than anybody else during these last 4 (5?) Months.
 
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As i said in my original post i've been working mon-fri some weekends as well there has been no lockdown for me. The only change has been wearing a mask and gloves and staying at home but when not at work.

Restaurants and pubs are open, gyms will be open at the end of the month. Checked AW and saw a reg was taking bookings and made the arrangements.

Edit - Just want to add i don't at all think i've had things harder than anybody else during these last 4 (5?) Months.
I've been working as well. There has been a lockdown as I've done what I can to restrict my contact with people and going out to the shops.

Punting is far to risky right now. Common sense tells me to wait, to see how easing of lockdown restrictions goes in my local area and nationally... my "release" can wait.
 
#69
I've been working as well. There has been a lockdown as I've done what I can to restrict my contact with people and going out to the shops.

Punting is far to risky right now. Common sense tells me to wait, to see how easing of lockdown restrictions goes in my local area and nationally... my "release" can wait.
I get that absolutely personally i feel comfortable with punting but equally i know so much can happen in a week that i'll cancel if necessary.
 
#70
Covid is going to be here a for a while. Anyone thinking there is a vaccine around the corner needs a bit of reality check no matter what gets reported in the media.
Think majority haven't taken covid seriously looking at the behaviour during the bank holidays and pub openings. The adherance to wearing masks in public transport seems a joke so far. Not sure how Boris can make mask mandatory in shops now rather than months ago but hey.. looking forward to the second wave
 
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I just had a look at AW and yes there are availability lights on, however, a check on some of the girls I've seen shows they haven't had feedback since before shutdown. So maybe a drift, but a pretty slow one overall. Girls who have restarted (or never stopped) may be busier however, I'm sure that'll be because there's less competition.

Although I really enjoy FK, with a respiratory virus, that's the most risky thing to indulge in. So when I do return to punting (no plans yet) I might have to forego that element. :(
If girls are smart, they won’t ask for, or provide, feedback during a pandemic. If lights are on, they are working. It costs £6 to go green, so little chance they are paying and not working.

Yes, kissing etc not wise for now xx
 
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I've decided not to restart punting at the start of this month and will make another decision at the start of August. I haven't met an escort in years without it involving kissing. So that will influence my decision. I would prefer to see a SP I had seen before and it would doubly seem strange not to kiss them.

I am having a weekend Vienna in October. I don't think could go there and not visit a FKK when I am there. Legal, regulated and with Austrian government approval. I just hope there isn't a second wave.

One thing is certain I won't be doing a spur of the moment visit to a parlour like I have done on the past when I was feeling horny. My nearest one opened up in mid-June. I doubt if I will be visiting them again.
no sure the FKKs are open yet?.......friend in the fatherland says not..?
 
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#74
If girls are smart, they won’t ask for, or provide, feedback during a pandemic. If lights are on, they are working. It costs £6 to go green, so little chance they are paying and not working.

Yes, kissing etc not wise for now xx
Is the booking system still operable on the AW website?
 
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#76
If girls are smart, they won’t ask for, or provide, feedback during a pandemic. If lights are on, they are working. It costs £6 to go green, so little chance they are paying and not working.

Yes, kissing etc not wise for now xx
The only feedback operational on AW is for sales through the marketplace and cam/phone chat. As has been posted a few times already, the escorting booking system has been disabled for months.

Edit: I can't get rid of the underlined bit. Dunno why that's happened. 😬
 
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Covid is going to be here a for a while. Anyone thinking there is a vaccine around the corner needs a bit of reality check no matter what gets reported in the media.
Think majority haven't taken covid seriously looking at the behaviour during the bank holidays and pub openings. The adherance to wearing masks in public transport seems a joke so far. Not sure how Boris can make mask mandatory in shops now rather than months ago but hey.. looking forward to the second wave
Didn't Hancock basically say you don't have to wear a mask in a shop if it makes you uncomfortable (not his exact words but thats the gist of it)

Have no idea how the mask rule will be enforceable it should have been in place months ago.
 
#80
I'm not returning to punting. Certainly not for a while anyway.
I look at it very simply.
1. There's a virus out there.
2. It kills.
3. There's no vaccine.
Until there's a vaccine, I can't see my opinion changing. I know some people will argue that the odds are tiny. Yes they are. But if someone said to you "here's a box of 1000 tic-taks. 999 are okay but one is poisoned and will kill you on the spot". Would you try a few? Or would you say "fuck that!" and not go near any of them.
 
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#81
My head is still trying to get to grips with this. I think it has to boil down to personal choice and what element of risk you are prepared to take.
Analysing the service we offer, can we really minimise the risk, if we limited, certain aspects. Do you take the guys temperature, to then tell him you are above the norm, good bye! do you implement a no kissing rule, to the point of insisting you both wear masks? I imagine knocking that one the head, would be a deal breaker for many Punters. Others, if they have not been indulging during lockdown, may just want the release and won't care about tweaks to service. Thought about restricting bookings, do one every two weeks, so you have a sufficient window, to see if, you come down with something. As it stands now, I don't think that whether you delay beginning again til end August or start now, matters, in the scheme of things. While the virus is here, its here, waiting another month, will not make any difference. Once you feel comfortable enough to do so, take a booking, feel great during, then, be racked with guilt and worry after, have you picked it up. Not an easy thing to compute.
 
#82
I'm not returning to punting. Certainly not for a while anyway.
I look at it very simply.
1. There's a virus out there.
2. It kills.
3. There's no vaccine.
Until there's a vaccine, I can't see my opinion changing. I know some people will argue that the odds are tiny. Yes they are. But if someone said to you "here's a box of 1000 tic-taks. 999 are okay but one is poisoned and will kill you on the spot". Would you try a few? Or would you say "fuck that!" and not go near any of them.
It depends on what the reward is for surviving. That’s a shit analogy without the upside.
 
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#83
I am still working from home and I only go out shopping after 8pm to buy food as I don’t trust this virus and nor do the scientist, plus my asthma is shit.
I Don’t live that far from Leics and other city’s will follow them maybe.
Think I will stay on the hand pump for a little longer. :)
 
#86
My head is still trying to get to grips with this. I think it has to boil down to personal choice and what element of risk you are prepared to take.
Analysing the service we offer, can we really minimise the risk, if we limited, certain aspects. Do you take the guys temperature, to then tell him you are above the norm, good bye! do you implement a no kissing rule, to the point of insisting you both wear masks? I imagine knocking that one the head, would be a deal breaker for many Punters. Others, if they have not been indulging during lockdown, may just want the release and won't care about tweaks to service. Thought about restricting bookings, do one every two weeks, so you have a sufficient window, to see if, you come down with something. As it stands now, I don't think that whether you delay beginning again til end August or start now, matters, in the scheme of things. While the virus is here, its here, waiting another month, will not make any difference. Once you feel comfortable enough to do so, take a booking, feel great during, then, be racked with guilt and worry after, have you picked it up. Not an easy thing to compute.
A good post.

It is all about how an escort/punter feels and how they perceive any risk.
While most of us on UKE are a bit savvy and usually somebody spots a wrong ‘un when they turn up, not all punters are in the same boat and may get fooled by the ‘covid secure’ rules an escort puts in place. I removed 2 escorts from my HL, not because they were openly working throughout, but because both were advertising as having covid safety procedures in place. Another couple I noticed said they had tested negative, and another that she had had the virus and was immune.

I won’t get a chance to punt for a few months yet, but if the opportunity arose I don’t feel I am ready to take a chance.
 
#87
for personal reasons I’m not in a rush to get back, my aw profile isn’t active at the moment but people are still finding a way to contact me. So I guess some escorts could be raking it in if they are working for there is definite demand.
 
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#89
I wonder if some punters will look back at this summer from a possible (and far more deadly) second wave this winter and see it as a window of lost opportunity, especially given the dampening down of the initial optimism of producing a working vaccine in the next few months (if ever)?

Yes, you would be playing Russian roulette punting at the present time, but life is full of examples of humans prepared to take far greater risks for their own pleasure. Just look at the death rate for base jumpers (about one in sixty) or F1 drivers in the 1960s, where in one year alone (1968) 10% of the drivers lost their lives.

The Office for National Statistics estimated that in the two weeks up to 5 July just under 1 in 4000 people (or 0,035%) were infected by the virus. But the infection rate is not uniform and so presuming you are punting outside of some of the higher risk
areas (such as Leicester) then the infection rate drops considerably again.

If you consider that the statistics are in your favour in the risk/benefit equation that punting, to some extent, always carries, how can you mitigate this risk? No kissing, no OWO, careful showering, finding an SP that disinfects the room between clients?

Given what we know about how the virus is passed on, an SP and SS being in very close proximity for 30 mins to an hour is probably going to make any of these precautions superfluous. Is a no kissing rule going to make any difference during this very intimate and close encounter?

if you are going to punt then finding a low volume provider would surely statistically be your best way of reducing your chances of being exposed to the virus.

I’m certainly no statistician, so please forgive these “back of the fag packet” musings if they are incorrect:

An escort seeing four clients per day five days per week has a 1 in 200 chance of exposure to the virus in any one week, whereas an SS that intends to see one every two weeks (as some on here have stated) has an average 1 in 8000 chance of exposure over the same period.

The very low volume provider would seem to be 40 times less likely to have contact with someone carrying the virus and therefore carry a very considerable lower risk to the punter. Couple this with the fact that the higher volume provider is likely to have a very gung-ho attitude to protecting themselves outside of the bedroom, if you are going to punt finding a low volume provider would appear to be by far the greatest factor in reducing your risk of exposure.

in another thread there was an opinion that those stating that seeing regulars was less risky were at best extremely naive, however, when there seems to be a general opinion that neither SP or SS should trust each other surely a clear indication that your regular is low volume is her availability when you try and book. The regular who often says that she is busy but can see you in a certain window is far more likely to see more clients than the one who can usually accommodate your request, or only works for very limited number of days. Over the months or years you can build a fairly accurate picture of how high or low volume a regular actually is.

Sorry, I didn’t realise how long this “thinking aloud post“ was going to be when I started, but to conclude: if you wish to negate the risk - don’t punt until it is safe (but when will that be?); if you consider the risk is now at a level where you might consider punting then you can mitigate that risk by booking an escort that you are fairly certain is a very low volume provider - more likely than not a regular rather than a first visit to an SS that takes your fancy on AW.
 
#90
I wonder if some punters will look back at this summer from a possible (and far more deadly) second wave this winter and see it as a window of lost opportunity, especially given the dampening down of the initial optimism of producing a working vaccine in the next few months (if ever)?

Yes, you would be playing Russian roulette punting at the present time, but life is full of examples of humans prepared to take far greater risks for their own pleasure. Just look at the death rate for base jumpers (about one in sixty) or F1 drivers in the 1960s, where in one year alone (1968) 10% of the drivers lost their lives.

The Office for National Statistics estimated that in the two weeks up to 5 July just under 1 in 4000 people (or 0,035%) were infected by the virus. But the infection rate is not uniform and so presuming you are punting outside of some of the higher risk
areas (such as Leicester) then the infection rate drops considerably again.

If you consider that the statistics are in your favour in the risk/benefit equation that punting, to some extent, always carries, how can you mitigate this risk? No kissing, no OWO, careful showering, finding an SP that disinfects the room between clients?

Given what we know about how the virus is passed on, an SP and SS being in very close proximity for 30 mins to an hour is probably going to make any of these precautions superfluous. Is a no kissing rule going to make any difference during this very intimate and close encounter?

if you are going to punt then finding a low volume provider would surely statistically be your best way of reducing your chances of being exposed to the virus.

I’m certainly no statistician, so please forgive these “back of the fag packet” musings if they are incorrect:

An escort seeing four clients per day five days per week has a 1 in 200 chance of exposure to the virus in any one week, whereas an SS that intends to see one every two weeks (as some on here have stated) has an average 1 in 8000 chance of exposure over the same period.

The very low volume provider would seem to be 40 times less likely to have contact with someone carrying the virus and therefore carry a very considerable lower risk to the punter. Couple this with the fact that the higher volume provider is likely to have a very gung-ho attitude to protecting themselves outside of the bedroom, if you are going to punt finding a low volume provider would appear to be by far the greatest factor in reducing your risk of exposure.

in another thread there was an opinion that those stating that seeing regulars was less risky were at best extremely naive, however, when there seems to be a general opinion that neither SP or SS should trust each other surely a clear indication that your regular is low volume is her availability when you try and book. The regular who often says that she is busy but can see you in a certain window is far more likely to see more clients than the one who can usually accommodate your request, or only works for very limited number of days. Over the months or years you can build a fairly accurate picture of how high or low volume a regular actually is.

Sorry, I didn’t realise how long this “thinking aloud post“ was going to be when I started, but to conclude: if you wish to negate the risk - don’t punt until it is safe (but when will that be?); if you consider the risk is now at a level where you might consider punting then you can mitigate that risk by booking an escort that you are fairly certain is a very low volume provider - more likely than not a regular rather than a first visit to an SS that takes your fancy on AW.
Good post, however I’d like to pick a few bones with it:D

Not sure how you worked out the exposure level of a SP/SS, I’m no stats expert, in fact I’m useless at it🤦🏾‍♂️. Escorting is a public front facing job, so the starting point for their level of exposure, will be higher even in a low transmission part of the country? Fatality levels amongst front facing workers support this premise. I think recently, it was stated front facing workers are 7 times more likely to contract CV19?

Also, the ‘regulars’ point is a false start in my opinion. As I have said, definition of regular is different for all. Furthermore, when a SP says she is low volume, or sees 1or 10 punters a day, I don’t take it as gospel, neither do I take anything a punter says as gospel. It would be stupid to believe anything in punt world, the whole of punt world is built on lies and deception from SPs and SS.
 
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Good post, however I’d like to pick a few bones with it:D

Not sure how you worked out the exposure level of a SP/SS, I’m no stats expert, in fact I’m useless at it🤦🏾‍♂️. Escorting is a public front facing job, so the starting point for their level of exposure, will be higher even in a low transmission part of the country? Fatality levels amongst front facing workers support this premise. I think recently, it was stated front facing workers are 7 times more likely to contract CV19?

Also, the ‘regulars’ point is a false start in my opinion. As I have said, definition of regular is different for all. Furthermore, when a SP says she is low volume, or sees 1or 10 punters a day, I don’t take it as gospel, neither do I take anything a punter says as gospel. It would be stupid to believe anything in punt world, the whole of punt world is built on lies and deception from SPs and SS.
I don’t lay claim to any great accuracy or science. I based my musings on the fact that the incidence of 1 in 4000 is of those currently infected and that the figures I refer to relate only to exposure to the virus, not the chances of catching it. As you say front line workers are at greater risk of catching it, but I was careful not to try and quote/make up figures of an SP catching it, only the chances of them being exposed to an infected client.

With regard to regulars, my point was that you are more likely to know from your own observations how high a volume they operate at rather than trust what you are told. In my case the three regulars that I see I have known for between two and five years and the one I think I know most about I see almost every week and have been doing so for about four years (I do see another lady once every six months or so, but I would count her as an occasional and certainly not a regular).
 
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AW removed the Escort booking form a week or two into lockdown apart from a small window a week or so ago when reverse bookings suddenly reappeared, the ability to use a booking form which then enables feedback to be left has not been available.
Ah, I see. So it's all been private bookings and no feedback. So neither side truly knows if their next appointment will be with someone who was reckless during lockdown? That's a pity, as even though I understand the economics and many WG's will not declare their earnings so could not claim furlough, I'd still prefer (when I do eventually start again) not to arrange meetings with those who never stopped working, but how will we know? :unknown:
 
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#93
Given that there's now a spike in Pendle as well as Blackburn/Darwen, I'm continuing to hold off. I appreciate the statistical risk of contracting COVID may be low, but there's also more and more data coming through about the pathology, which is frankly pretty scary, basically systemic effects, some of which could be life-long. I don't think there's ever been an equivalent disease.
 
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#94
I just had a look at AW and yes there are availability lights on, however, a check on some of the girls I've seen shows they haven't had feedback since before shutdown. So maybe a drift, but a pretty slow one overall.
I think AW froze the feedback and booking system during the pandemic - so the lack of feedback is not a useful guide anyway

Edit: i didnt see this had already been answered (and more fully/better)
 
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I see a few Scottish escorts are now back working and I assume by doing so they will be taking a risk with their health. The current social distancing rules prevent any real intimacy, so what are these escorts offering? I suspect punters are not spending money for a two metre, half hour chat with a semi clad/naked escort? I assume the usual services will be on offer to punters who will then go back home to their families, or to their work places. Likewise escorts will go back to their homes and families after the days work not knowing if they are infected.

I sympathise that money will be tight at the moment, however, is that not why the governments self employed financial help scheme was set up? Or has that now stopped? :unknown:
 
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#97
I see a few Scottish escorts are now back working and I assume by doing so they will be taking a risk with their health. The current social distancing rules prevent any real intimacy, so what are these escorts offering? I suspect punters are not spending money for a two metre, half hour chat with a semi clad/naked escort? I assume the usual services will be on offer to punters who will then go back home to their families, or to their work places. Likewise escorts will go back to their homes and families after the days work not knowing if they are infected.

I sympathise that money will be tight at the moment, however, is that not why the governments self employed financial help scheme was set up? Or has that now stopped? :unknown:
There are quite a few people that the self employed financial help scheme would not have helped at all
 
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I see a few Scottish escorts are now back working and I assume by doing so they will be taking a risk with their health. The current social distancing rules prevent any real intimacy, so what are these escorts offering? I suspect punters are not spending money for a two metre, half hour chat with a semi clad/naked escort? I assume the usual services will be on offer to punters who will then go back home to their families, or to their work places. Likewise escorts will go back to their homes and families after the days work not knowing if they are infected.

I sympathise that money will be tight at the moment, however, is that not why the governments self employed financial help scheme was set up? Or has that now stopped? :unknown:
Not everyone qualified. My friend who runs a beauty business from home for 2 years was offered £90 for the grant. Insulting really.
 
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