Escort Reviews on UKE : Your Views Please

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UKE is still in its developmental stages ; Admin himself has said that it is a work in progress and changes and additions will be made where deemed appropriate.Initially the site had separate review sections for each region ; reviews are still allowed but have been downgraded and incorporated into the regional discussion forums ( as of today I believe ).

I think it would be very helpful to get the views of members ; both escorts and their customers , on whether reviews belong on this particular site ; what are the pros and cons of including them , how will they effect the ethos of the site , if included should they follow a certain format , would they make you feel uncomfortable ( posting or receiving one ) , would they be credible ...... any points or issues that are important to you.

Will many customers use this site to post reviews or will most stick to UKP and Adultwork field reports ?

I have my own views on some of the issues involved , but I am only one member and it would be very interesting to hear what everyone else thinks !
 
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I wouldn't have a problem being reviewed on here but I can see where it could cause issues with negative reviews. Quite honestly I think most negative reviews won't be of girls on here, negatives I see tend to be on specific issues eg doesn't offer the services said, bait and switch, inaccurate photos etc and the girls that are taking the time to post on forums are less likely to be the type to employ these tactics. I may well be wrong!

I think I'd keep the option for now but it can always be looked at again if it doesn't work well.
 
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Thought this had been discussed before. My thoughts are that it will either be a copy and paste of UKP reviews or, as punters and escorts become more familiar with each other on here, reviews may be diluted so as not to offend.
 
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Personally I've found the reviews on UKP helpful but, as with all review sites, one negative overshadows multiple positives. The issue I see is some bad reviews are put on because the punter had an issue and the girl was fine. Maybe some kind of survey type review where services and acuricies are rated rather than reviewed by a write up?
 
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I wouldn't have a problem being reviewed on here but I can see where it could cause issues with negative reviews. Quite honestly I think most negative reviews won't be of girls on here, negatives I see tend to be on specific issues eg doesn't offer the services said, bait and switch, inaccurate photos etc and the girls that are taking the time to post on forums are less likely to be the type to employ these tactics. I may well be wrong!

I think I'd keep the option for now but it can always be looked at again if it doesn't work well.
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Full reviews should be left on UKP I feel .
But then what about just in general post chit chat on here. I mention say to Orla, thanks for last friday, best blowjob I ever had or vice versa from the WG to the guy then thats gotta be a good thing.
Maybe there should be some rule that no derogatory remarks on service can be posted ? dunno, its a tough one, which is why perhaps they should be left on UKP, shame to spoil this atmosphere on UKE with arguing.
 
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Thinking about it though, there is a nice harmony on here and it would be a shame to upset that when there are plenty of other sites that reviews can be left on...
 
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Full reviews should be left on UKP I feel .
But then what about just in general post chit chat on here. I mention say to Orla, thanks for last friday, best blowjob I ever had or vice versa from the WG to the guy then thats gotta be a good thing.
Maybe there should be some rule that no derogatory remarks on service can be posted ? dunno, its a tough one, which is why perhaps they should be left on UKP, shame to spoil this atmosphere on UKE with arguing.
Why thank you!

Haha I know what you mean, it's hard to create the right balance I guess. But if somebody isn't a member of UKP but wants to post a negative?

I'd say to leave it as it is for now but if it does cause bad feeling or arguments, which none of us want, then to remove the option.
 
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I tend to agree UKP for review... Although saying that we can all be linked to here if we left a bad review.. I believe the girls who are on here are confident and honest about their looks, services etc.
I am sure if some conflict arises Admin will decide on the best way of solving it...
 
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I said in another post that reviews will either all be positive or three will be lots of arguments spiking over the board. You only have to look at some of the review threads on UKP to see how out of hand it can get with the female and a few regulars having a go at the man who dared write a negative of their favourite girl from bickering to threats of violence. I believe this should be a chat forum and leave GFE reviews to UKP as it will keep this site free of arguments
 
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Given that the sort of girl that chooses to post on here shows that she is willing to engage with her clients I think that it unlikely that they are going to get negative reviews, but even the best can get a bad review now and again which may not be her fault - it takes two to tango after all! My personal opinion is that this is not a punters site but a shared platform and is therefore not the place to post full reviews; that should continue to be UKP. No harm in some direct open feedback to the ladies from their clients though, but this site is developing a unique ethos and vibe that I feel it would be a shame to jeopardise with disputes over reviews.
 
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Not all members on here would either be able to - or necessarily feel comfortable to - post reviews on UKP.

Right now this site is very much populated by current / ex UKP members but over time it will attract other people. Feedback I have had in the past from some UKP "lurkers" was that they felt UKP was just too hard core for them and they would not feel comfortable posting there - especially reviews - for fear of derision from the usual welcoming committee. I think this would be a more welcoming environment so we definitely should allow punters to review here, and reviews should be segmented as they were before IMHO.

I think the creation of UKE - whether intentionally or not - will actually increase this perception that UKP is for more hard core / hard nosed punters while UKE will attract the "fluffier" punters.

Firstly, the vast majority of WGs are not yet on this site - and many may never join for various reasons. So reviewing escorts who are non members is just as useful as reviewing them on UKP. Regarding the escort membership, as I stated elsewhere I genuinely don't think we will get as many negatives for members here as we would have on UKP for a number of reasons.

Firstly I think the vast majority of negatives over there are for WGs who are either dishonest about their profiles (b&s or not updating pics / inaccurate likes etc) or who are just jaded and not offering decent service. I don't think that applies to members here. But if it does, I don't think this reviewers should be afraid of calling them on it. Otherwise this just becomes an exact duplicate of the AW review system with it's out of control fluffiness. Hopefully none of us want that. Hopefully the fact that you know that the escort has a right to reply will make you think a bit longer about how best to phrase your review. If you honestly can't be arsed to be tactful or feel that will compromise you then your review probably does belong on UKP.

I have personally already posted a neg here - of an escort who is not a member here admittedly. But to be honest, if she did post here it would probably have never gotten to the point it did as I'd have had a chance to get a better feel for her personality and probably would have decided not to bother approaching her.

So I think for various reasons reviews should absolutely be part of UKE. I don't think it will cause problems, we're all grown ups here, at least I hope we are.
 
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Reviews on here would be a horrible idea, Despite what people seem to think the majority of reviews on UKP are actually positive (and yes believe it or not alot of those reviews are fluffy, flowery, self important etc etc) and these get by just fine. No need to duplicate on this site where lets all be completely honest no one would dare write a negative unless a WG did something very seriously bad such as bait and switch, stole money etc.
 
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I know a forum is a forum but to post a review on here. Not something I want to do, good or bad. I may mention I had a good time in a communication but full scale positive or negative....nah, not the place for it. On here I know it is still evolving but its like facebook for punters and escorts where we can benefit from each other. Not what everyone wants but there is nothing else like it. Twitter is too public, AW too fluffy and too many ulterior motives, PN nobody believes them and UKP well just possibly too frank. All valid sites but as someone said we don't want UKP 2 or another twitter.

To put it another way, I have learned lots in what, ten days and I enjoy the banter. Keep it just like it is and maybe eliminate the need for reviews altogether. :unknown:
 
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I doubt there would be many, if any negative reviews on here about a meeting arranged by interaction on here.
The punters done his homework beforehand - he's spotted a girl he likes the writing style of, checked AW for looks and services and then UKP for honest reviews on her. Now he's really interested and starts a conversation - if they get on a booking is arranged.
The ice has been broken, punter and SP get on ok on here, services and expectations are prearranged and discussed before the booking - all leading to a positive review afterwards.

However reviews good or bad are for the benefit of the punter and therefore belong on a punter forum - UKP IMO

Let's keep this purely an interactive site for both sides it will be more relaxed as a result
 
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I will be posting reviews on here and UKP, details and sentiments the same but wording slightly tailored to suit readers.

I'm not a fan of having the discussion topics mixed with reviews.

Often i want to read and chat about punting related bollox. I only read reviews when im considering booking a punt or if i spot a review on a HL girl.

Separate categories for reviews and discussions please admin!!
 
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Probably the quickest way to stir up a hornet`s nest. Reviews which are wholly positive and appreciative of the girl and the services she provided (particularly if the Reviewer does two or three positives) will immediately result in the Reviewer being roasted on UKP as "fluffy", whilst the first Negative Review will probably result in some argument, sides being taken, and `handbags at dawn`

Please keep UKE as the one site where Punters and WGs can socialise amicably, enjoy chatting with each other, and only fall out over non-puntingmatters
 
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I post my reviews on another site. Not sure about doing the same here, because there is a lot more interaction with the ladies.
UKE feels like a different type of forum. More useful for chatting with the wg's and possibly making a few bookings.
 
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UKP has a lot of reviews and comment and most of the punters here seem to also be UKP members. Reviews here are likely to be duplicating what gets posted on UKP and I don't think that multiple reviews for the same booking on different forums is going to be helpful. I see UKE as more of a social/chat thing and UKP as a bit more objective and consumer-focussed.

And it's good to have both.
 
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I agree with most of the posters.
I don't think it's a good idea as this is the place for light banter and a bit of flirting, it would change the atmosphere.
Most of the guys on here are UKP members too so I'd say just post them there as per usual.
 
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UKP is there for reviews. Most of us have the same names there and here, so we can do that there.

I like the interaction here with the WGs and have added quite a few to my HL that I never would have found through AW searches. The banter is quite nice and gives an insight to the WG and makes it easy to decide whether to see her or not.

Reviews will ruin that I think
 
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Well, guess it's just me reviewing on here then while everyone else reviews on UKP. So, no pressure! :crazy:
Nope, me and you. I've already done one :D in the NE section.

But it's a really interesting question. In some ways guys we have already caused ourselves a problem by using the same name on here as on UKP, so any review we post on there our name is on here as well. But that won't stop me reviewing on there. Should we review on here, I'm now actually not sure. I agree with the comments that this site is more of a friendly forum for punters and WG's to interact and maybe it should stay like that. Obviously a negative review on UKP might then cause some hassle when both parties are on here. But surely only if it's significantly dishonest ? and that's the key for me.
 
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Nope, me and you. I've already done one :D in the NE section.

But it's a really interesting question. In some ways guys we have already caused ourselves a problem by using the same name on here as on UKP, so any review we post on there our name is on here as well. But that won't stop me reviewing on there. Should we review on here, I'm now actually not sure. I agree with the comments that this site is more of a friendly forum for punters and WG's to interact and maybe it should stay like that. Obviously a negative review on UKP might then cause some hassle when both parties are on here. But surely only if it's significantly dishonest ? and that's the key for me.
I don't have the problem of having the same name on UKP as I'm banned there. :rolleyes: But as I said elsewhere I think the chances of a negative are much less if you meet an escort through UKP and have a chance to chat / get to know them / discuss expectations of a meet etc.

At the end of the day I always work to ensure I am as honest and constructive in my reviews as possible so hopefully any criticism will be taken as intended. Time will tell! :)
 
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Nope, me and you. I've already done one :D in the NE section.

But it's a really interesting question. In some ways guys we have already caused ourselves a problem by using the same name on here as on UKP, so any review we post on there our name is on here as well. But that won't stop me reviewing on there. Should we review on here, I'm now actually not sure. I agree with the comments that this site is more of a friendly forum for punters and WG's to interact and maybe it should stay like that. Obviously a negative review on UKP might then cause some hassle when both parties are on here. But surely only if it's significantly dishonest ? and that's the key for me.
I don't see it as a problem at all personally, I prefer to stick to the same nick on both sites making this the third punting site in all as I have nothing to hide.
 
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I sent a wide range of AW invites out to this site.
Low & behold, the (very) few WG's who have taken up the offer are, in my opinion, very unlikely to receive a negative review, here or on UKP.

I'm talking about the girls that we KNOW provide a top service & pride themselves on their reputation.

Admin will have his work cut out when word of this site spreads to dusty phones.
 
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I don't have the problem of having the same name on UKP as I'm banned there. :rolleyes: But as I said elsewhere I think the chances of a negative are much less if you meet an escort through UKP and have a chance to chat / get to know them / discuss expectations of a meet etc.

At the end of the day I always work to ensure I am as honest and constructive in my reviews as possible so hopefully any criticism will be taken as intended. Time will tell! :)
I agree Quesadilla - As a newbie and relatively inexperienced guy in this I have to admit I am more likely to organise something with a woman I click with on here - geography permitting - than booking via UKP simply because through forum posts and private messages you really get a feel for personality and as I've said before that's far more important to me, maybe I'm far too sensitive for this world!!!
 
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I've posted four reviews on UKP; had some positive responses to them from the members and nothing particularly negative. However, I do feel that my outlook and reviewing style is maybe more suited to this forum.

All my reviews on there are positive but I did have a few potential neutral experiences before I ever joined UKP. Hypotehtically, had this site existed I would have felt fairly comfortable posting those neutral experiences as I believe that the reasons for not giving a positive were fair and would not be written in an overly harsh and demeaning way.
 
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As an aside - in terms of more SPs joining and the direction this forum will go in, I had an interesting conversation at a meeting the other day with a lady who is already extremely well reviewed on UKP and AW. She asked me why all these punters were joining if it was supposed to be a WGs forum? I tried to tell her it was a forum for both groups to come together and allowed promotion from SPs, unlike UKP, but she didn't seem entirely convinced. :) This also admittedly had something to do with the fact she probably doesn't need the publicity! But gradually, more SPs are definitely joining.
 
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I've posted four reviews on UKP; had some positive responses to them from the members and nothing particularly negative. However, I do feel that my outlook and reviewing style is maybe more suited to this forum.

All my reviews on there are positive but I did have a few potential neutral experiences before I ever joined UKP. Hypotehtically, had this site existed I would have felt fairly comfortable posting those neutral experiences as I believe that the reasons for not giving a positive were fair and would not be written in an overly harsh and demeaning way.
Fully agreed, Eurypides, except that mine were in the form of FR's on AW when I had enjoyed my meetings with escorts enough to be bothered to write them - hence never a negative FR on there as I couldn't be arsed to write one about a meeting i had found negative or even neutral. I no longer maintain membership there, so doubt I could access any of them anyway. Not even available now through my best girl's feedback, as she has today removed all her FR's from there for reasons she explains on her profile.As I've said elsewhere, I never had the balls to even post, let alone review, on UKP after seeing the mauling some newbies on there got from more established members. I feel much more at home on UKE, and can't thank Admin enough for having created a site more suited to my own point of view and natural fluffy tendencies. :blush:.
Thanks Admin :hi::drinks:
 
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. Not even available now through my best girl's feedback, as she has today removed all her FR's from there for reasons she explains on her profile
I saw that. Those mouth-breather sicko stalker types making people's lives a misery. Every SP I talk to seems to have at least one. :( Worst thing is you just have to watch it unfold and the person affected try and deal with it. Can do nothing to help at all most the time.
 
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UKE had got off to a very promising start, with lots of interesting discussion and banter.

I will keep any of my own reviews to UKP as I think that is the proper place for them.If I saw a UKE member and wanted to recommend her on here I may put a brief comment on her profile page ; similar to an AW feedback sort of thing.

Nearly all male members of UKE are also on UKP so do not need reviews on both.

A negative or neutral review , or even a small piece of criticism , on here would have the potential to end in a big argument which would cause tensions and put a dent in the sites positive atmosphere.In a similar vein a glowing review on UKE would carry much less weight than one on UKP , even if 100% accurate , because of the site's friendly ethos.UKP can at times be a bit harsh for some but it allows for more dispassionate , uncensored , accurate and therefore more highly valued reviews.

Reviews go with the territory of being an escort.Such explicit critiques , though they can be a big boost to business , are hard for some to read ; especially as any criticism can be taken to heart as escorting is a much more personal profession that most jobs.if I was an escort I would be OK with reviews being on UKP ; a site which I could ignore if I chose or just browse anonymously for any useful feedback.I would not like them on a site where I was an active participant and it was right in my face ; I would feel less relaxed using the site if I was open to this.

Serious reviewing on UKE would risk upsetting the dynamic and causing unnecessary discord , glowing reviews will be taken with a large pinch of salt by most readers.I personally cannot think of any major worthwhile reason for reviews to be on UKE ; it is a great site without them .

It would be nice to hear some of the escorts genuine views on this matter, which is specifically about reviews on UKE , not reviews in general.

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I don't see it as a problem at all personally, I prefer to stick to the same nick on both sites making this the third punting site in all as I have nothing to hide.
Problem is maybe the wrong word to use as like you I am honest in my reviews and happy to stand by them so have nothing to hide.
 
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Fully agreed, Eurypides, except that mine were in the form of FR's on AW when I had enjoyed my meetings with escorts enough to be bothered to write them - hence never a negative FR on there as I couldn't be arsed to write one about a meeting i had found negative or even neutral. I no longer maintain membership there, so doubt I could access any of them anyway. Not even available now through my best girl's feedback, as she has today removed all her FR's from there for reasons she explains on her profile.As I've said elsewhere, I never had the balls to even post, let alone review, on UKP after seeing the mauling some newbies on there got from more established members. I feel much more at home on UKE, and can't thank Admin enough for having created a site more suited to my own point of view and natural fluffy tendencies. :blush:.
Thanks Admin :hi::drinks:
Really sorry to see her getting grief again, there are some real nasty people around who seem just out to make trouble. Unfortunately the top girls all seem to get this grief every now and then and it's very annoying when you know it's untrue.
 
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I saw that. Those mouth-breather sicko stalker types making people's lives a misery. Every SP I talk to seems to have at least one. :( Worst thing is you just have to watch it unfold and the person affected try and deal with it. Can do nothing to help at all most the time.
Either her previous stalker is back, some other weirdo, freaky maniac doing it for his own demented, twisted reasons, or ( heaven forbid :angry: ) another escort who's jealous of her and her excellent reputation, the success she is in the industry, and the consequent length of her bookings list. I hope not, as that would mean that they knew her quite well, and would know how sensitive she can be, and how much this would upset and stress her to the point where she would not be "at the top of her game" even in her professional life. I'm doing what I can to help her via text.
 
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UKE had got off to a very promising start, with lots of interesting discussion and banter.

I will keep any of my own reviews to UKP as I think that is the proper place for them.If I saw a UKE member and wanted to recommend her on here I may put a brief comment on her profile page ; similar to Aw.........
I have to point out that the major flaw would be : if you did that and wanted a negative review on UKP , you would put a positive feedback on AW so you can continue to punt , you would put a positive on here to keep peace and continue to enjoy banter , unfortunately for me as a victim of a false positive at Aw on a few occasions by UKP reviewers , I feel a good honest review here and no aliases would be 10 times the worth of a UKP review.

Apologies I dont mean you personalky would , im trying to say in your scenario a punter most likely would.
 
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UKE had got off to a very promising start, with lots of interesting discussion and banter.

I will keep any of my own reviews to UKP as I think that is the proper place for them.If I saw a UKE member and wanted to recommend her on here I may put a brief comment on her profile page ; similar to an AW feedback sort of thing.

Nearly all male members of UKE are also on UKP so do not need reviews on both.

A negative or neutral review , or even a small piece of criticism , on here would have the potential to end in a big argument which would cause tensions and put a dent in the sites positive atmosphere.In a similar vein a glowing review on UKE would carry much less weight than one on UKP , even if 100% accurate , because of the site's friendly ethos.UKP can at times be a bit harsh for some but it allows for more dispassionate , uncensored , accurate and therefore more highly valued reviews.

Reviews go with the territory of being an escort.Such explicit critiques , though they can be a big boost to business , are hard for some to read ; especially as any criticism can be taken to heart as escorting is a much more personal profession that most jobs.if I was an escort I would be OK with reviews being on UKP ; a site which I could ignore if I chose or just browse anonymously for any useful feedback.I would not like them on a site where I was an active participant and it was right in my face ; I would feel less relaxed using the site if I was open to this.

Serious reviewing on UKE would risk upsetting the dynamic and causing unnecessary discord , glowing reviews will be taken with a large pinch of salt by most readers.I personally cannot think of any major worthwhile reason for reviews to be on UKE ; it is a great site without them .

It would be nice to hear some of the escorts genuine views on this matter, which is specifically about reviews on UKE , not reviews in general.

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Fully agree with most of this Aurora, especially the first of the red highlighted statements. Let's not risk the excellent and positive start this site has had ?
I think a girl can "take to heart" and even be very hurt by a criticism she can do nothing to correct. Criticism of her BJ technique, for example, can be accepted and changed if she thinks it's appropriate to do so, but if the criticism is of her facial or bodily features about which she can do almost nothing to make an improvement, isn't it being merely rather spiteful, unnecessary and hurtful ( even by UKP's standards ? )
 
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Honestly I don't think it makes too much of a difference if there's a neg review on here vs on UKP, if the girl is a member here there will still be tension.

I know you said specifically not to talk about reviews in general Aurora, but if links are allowed I think this one is interesting: http://becauseimawhore.com/2014/06/13/the-whos-who-of-punter-forums/ - it pretty much covers my views on them, and I think the views of more SPs than they'd like to admit directly to you. That being said, hey they will always exist so as I said in another post, all we can do is be honest on our profiles and try our best.

But yeah as I said with regards to UKE, I'd probably vote to keep them to UKP as well purely because of the weird doubling nature of it. Maybe the nicer ones are going to start to be put on here more and the negative ones on UKP? Which could mean bad things for both sites, especially the latter as it will get very negative very quickly. Honestly I'm not too sure.
 
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UKE is still in its developmental stages ; Admin himself has said that it is a work in progress and changes and additions will be made where deemed appropriate.Initially the site had separate review sections for each region ; reviews are still allowed but have been downgraded and incorporated into the regional discussion forums ( as of today I believe ).

I think it would be very helpful to get the views of members ; both escorts and their customers , on whether reviews belong on this particular site ; what are the pros and cons of including them , how will they effect the ethos of the site , if included should they follow a certain format , would they make you feel uncomfortable ( posting or receiving one ) , would they be credible ...... any points or issues that are important to you.

Will many customers use this site to post reviews or will most stick to UKP and Adultwork field reports ?

I have my own views on some of the issues involved , but I am only one member and it would be very interesting to hear what everyone else thinks !
Ukpunting is for punters so in my opinion I think reviews are best left for that site.
Ukescorting is for both punter and escort and I think the balance would be upset if reviews were added.
Women are from Venus and men are from Mars and eventually the difference will cause friction when disputes arise over reviews of members here.
At the moment everything seems to be ticking along nicely to everyone's benefit so why throw a spanner in the works and spoil it.
Personally I would not post a review on here, I'll save them for Ukpunting.
 
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Honestly I don't think it makes too much of a difference if there's a neg review on here vs on UKP, if the girl is a member here there will still be tension.

I know you said specifically not to talk about reviews in general Aurora, but if links are allowed I think this one is interesting: http://becauseimawhore.com/2014/06/13/the-whos-who-of-punter-forums/ - it pretty much covers my views on them, and I think the views of more SPs than they'd like to admit directly to you. That being said, hey they will always exist so as I said in another post, all we can do is be honest on our profiles and try our best.

But yeah as I said with regards to UKE, I'd probably vote to keep them to UKP as well purely because of the weird doubling nature of it. Maybe the nicer ones are going to start to be put on here more and the negative ones on UKP? Which could mean bad things for both sites, especially the latter as it will get very negative very quickly. Honestly I'm not too sure.
UKP is in existence for punters to post genuine reviews as they wish to, its not designed for WGs and in this unregulated pastime it in a small way holds some WGs and pimps to account. Certainly for some older WGs and pimps who were around pre-UKP it rankles them that UKP exists at all as previously the bad ones could offer bad service and few got to hear about it. Well bad luck to such low lifes, UKP is here too stay so if smart offer ALL punters a good honest service and good feedback will result.
 
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Smiths, I certainly agree with you to a certain extent but your last statement is optimistic at best. Sadly there is not much we can do if we have been honest about our services, provide accurate pictures, describe ourselves as the way we are and still get left with a negative because of discrepancies that are down to opinion, such as looks, not offering free time (yes that has been listed as a neg on some reviews) or due to a disgruntled punter in general. I also think the examples in my link of punters speaking about extra services offered like free time or OWO for an extra price when it isn't advertised is downright irresponsible. You can say UKP isn't for us all you'd like, but it is about us and so that sense of being personally affected by it is never going to go away. Sadly, try all we might, even the most popular girls start to get targeted in the end. Sometimes it feels like you can't do anything right. My advice to SPs is similar to the conclusion of the blog: As long as you're honest and you've tried your best, just leave the boys to themselves. That's why I never bothered signing up to UKP and never will. It's your space to do with what you wish, and sadly that includes some people's personal vendettas against us - because it's your space, it's your job to regulate that too.
 
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Smiths, I certainly agree with you to a certain extent but your last statement is optimistic at best. Sadly there is not much we can do if we have been honest about our services, provide accurate pictures, describe ourselves as the way we are and still get left with a negative because of discrepancies that are down to opinion, such as looks, not offering free time (yes that has been listed as a neg on some reviews) or due to a disgruntled punter in general. I also think the examples in my link of punters speaking about extra services offered like free time or OWO for an extra price when it isn't advertised is downright irresponsible. You can say UKP isn't for us all you'd like, but it is about us and so that sense of being personally affected by it is never going to go away. Sadly, try all we might, even the most popular girls start to get targeted in the end. Sometimes it feels like you can't do anything right. My advice to SPs is similar to the conclusion of the blog: As long as you're honest and you've tried your best, just leave the boys to themselves. That's why I never bothered signing up to UKP and never will. It's your space to do with what you wish, and sadly that includes some people's personal vendettas against us - because it's your space, it's your job to regulate that too.
Where you say its optimistic that's what I expect, I uphold my end of the deal each and every time, so I expect a WG who has accepted my booking to show me the same courtesy, if she doesn't a negative review and me badmouthing her will be the consequence. I do the same on trip adviser, I dont like bad service off anyone.

Anyway the point is genuine punters are the ones paying so its for them to decide whether to give a positive, negative or neutral review as they viewed the punt as. Obviously a review is a moment in time and subjective to the punter who has posted it. It COULD be the case another punter punted with the same WG the same day and had a great punt. As long as the review is genuine and accepted as such by admin then it can go on UKP for punters to read or not as they wish and decide for themselves.

The fact is UKP has helped many punters locate good WGs and avoid bad ones so its done exactly what it says on the tin.
 
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You didn't read my post correctly, what I meant about optimism is the idea that if we offer a good service, good feedback will follow. That is not necessarily true - sometimes a punter has a personal vendetta against an SP and she will get a negative review no matter what. It's not my problem if a punter spends upwards of £100 on someone he hasn't actually bothered to read the profile of. However much people have spent, it shouldn't give them any right to disrespect and completely dismantle somebody's career if they are going about their business honestly - thankfully as far as I can see, UKP doesn't actually have that power as even the most loathed on there are still making good money, but it has enough influence that some girls will feel pressured to accept bookings they wouldn't usually (as I have in the past) for fear of getting negative reception if they don't. That's a problem, and I am grateful to see that there are many members who this genuinely does concern and who are polite enough to take the wellbeing of the escort concerned into account, and there are even members that won't take it personally if you're honest with them and tell them you don't think you're the escort for them. But many of the rest view us as less than human and think that their payment entitles them to our livelihoods. Just something to think about. Reviews are necessary and very useful to you, but sadly, some people do use them as tools of coercion. This should be actively discouraged - I don't see that happening.
 
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Smiths, I certainly agree with you to a certain extent but your last statement is optimistic at best. Sadly there is not much we can do if we have been honest about our services, provide accurate pictures, describe ourselves as the way we are and still get left with a negative because of discrepancies that are down to opinion, such as looks, not offering free time (yes that has been listed as a neg on some reviews) or due to a disgruntled punter in general. I also think the examples in my link of punters speaking about extra services offered like free time or OWO for an extra price when it isn't advertised is downright irresponsible. You can say UKP isn't for us all you'd like, but it is about us and so that sense of being personally affected by it is never going to go away. Sadly, try all we might, even the most popular girls start to get targeted in the end. Sometimes it feels like you can't do anything right. My advice to SPs is similar to the conclusion of the blog: As long as you're honest and you've tried your best, just leave the boys to themselves. That's why I never bothered signing up to UKP and never will. It's your space to do with what you wish, and sadly that includes some people's personal vendettas against us - because it's your space, it's your job to regulate that too.
Nope, sorry but you're not even close. I've been a member of UKP for several years now and very rarely do I come across a negative due to silly reasons such as 'not offering free time'. Also, if anything UKP reviewers are OVERLY leniant when it comes to looks- this is HARDLY EVER the reason a girl gets a negative unless she has incorrectly advertised her age or dress size. BBWs, old women, short, tall, ethnic SP's etc all get positive reviews on UKP. What matters most is the ATTITUDE of the SP and how she makes the punter feel, get this right and no UKP reviewer who isn't a troll or misogynist will give you a negative.
 
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