CORONA VIRUS

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I was contemplating a punt this weekend, but have put it off. Couldn't be bothered. Maybe next week.

Not sure if it's relating to coronavirus, I haven't altered my habits because of it, maybe I'll regret the lack of panic in my buying in the coming days.

If I was punting, I'd avoid using the tube. To much contact with the great unsanitised.
 
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Is this affecting this industry?

Curious as to what punters think about the increased risks ( if any) about punting during all the media attention?

I’m hoping it is putting you all off, otherwise I’ve definitely lost my sparkle lol 😆

Vic x
I would think it will have an unprecedented effect on the industry. One that'll only grow in the coming weeks and months. posters on the site appear to be taking it very lightly, whether this is actually how it translates to real world we shall see.

For myself I have stopped punting entirely till things, at least stabilise.
 
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I’ve had two cancellations because *allegedly* work didn’t allow travel. So maybe there’s some effect, although negligible in this case.
I know an SP due to tour Edinburgh from London in a couple of weeks. If she makes it up I'll punt but we'll see how it all progresses over the next 2 weeks. There may be more travel restrictions by then.
 
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Is this affecting this industry?

Curious as to what punters think about the increased risks ( if any) about punting during all the media attention?

I’m hoping it is putting you all off, otherwise I’ve definitely lost my sparkle lol 😆

Vic x
I wouldn't deter me, but I'm far more likely to encounter it in my workplace than yours.

Beyond the perceived risk of transmission/ infection, the media prominence and practical procedures around this virus may give some second thoughts. For example, the containment procedure involves thorough investigation of contacts, and potentially awkward questions for a punter.
 
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I wouldn't deter me, but I'm far more likely to encounter it in my workplace than yours.

Beyond the perceived risk of transmission/ infection, the media prominence and practical procedures around this virus may give some second thoughts. For example, the containment procedure involves thorough investigation of contacts, and potentially awkward questions for a punter.
I hadn't even thought of that.
You'd have to lie, or worse tell the truth.
 
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I hadn't even thought of that.
You'd have to lie, or worse tell the truth.
I would imagine you tell the SP separately rather than through the official channels

I expect at some stage soon it will get past the trying to work out "who gave it to who" stage and pretty much come down to "who do you live with or work with" as the people they need to be aware of
 
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Is this affecting this industry?

Curious as to what punters think about the increased risks ( if any) about punting during all the media attention?

I’m hoping it is putting you all off, otherwise I’ve definitely lost my sparkle lol 😆

Vic x
It's certainly affecting the industry forums.

There seems to be an outbreak of topics. They could become a forum pandemic. People may start dieing of boredom.
 
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Is this affecting this industry?

Curious as to what punters think about the increased risks ( if any) about punting during all the media attention?

I’m hoping it is putting you all off, otherwise I’ve definitely lost my sparkle lol 😆

Vic x
I think in the coming weeks and months it will affect most industries.

The only thing that concerns me is how self isolation is supported.
Do any of you single people think you may struggle to get supplies of food etc.

In our village we do look out for the vulnerable anyway and just a few sensible precautions if someone is isolating should be enough.

We have not gone out scrapping for loo roll or paracetamol but we did get some comments when doing our usual monthly shop earlier this week.

I have 3 punts lined up for the rest of the month and have no plans to cancel.
 
#29
A vaccine is at least a year away according to what I've read...so most of the panic measures being suggested are impractical. Can you 'socially distance' yourself for 12 months, buy and store a year's supply of food and other provisions...no, neither can I.

My life will continue as normal...I will take the Tube every day and won't go out of my way to avoid gatherings generally...and I will still punt. About the most useful thing the Government could do at the moment is to make testing widely/easily available, so that we can all distinguish a cold from Corona and act accordingly.
 
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At the moment I’m making plans to increase income from other avenues in this industry. As much as I would love to ignore this, because of existing health I cannot.

I have considered the awkward question part if/when the time comes. Under the circumstances I will be requesting I make first contact with punters to explain the situation and ask that as long as they give their correct area info, could other details be fake.
If it cannot be done anonymously all I can do is stall whilst I hear back from the punter.

Fingers crossed I never have to send any we need to talk messages.
 
#32
I reckon this industry is one of the best to be in at the moment because of the pre existing fear of infections/viruses/etc that comes with the job anyway - us SP's know how to stay cleaner of viruses and shit so this isn't anything new for us :unknown:
Then there's the chance of business actually rising as people may stop using Chinese massage places /Chinese escorts ect due to the fear and stick to more home grown SP's perhaps, Who knows?

There will be some impact as we're dealing with the general public which at the best of times are usually like sheep! 🐑
 
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I think in the coming weeks and months it will affect most industries.

The only thing that concerns me is how self isolation is supported.
Do any of you single people think you may struggle to get supplies of food etc.

In our village we do look out for the vulnerable anyway and just a few sensible precautions if someone is isolating should be enough.

We have not gone out scrapping for loo roll or paracetamol but we did get some comments when doing our usual monthly shop earlier this week.

I have 3 punts lined up for the rest of the month and have no plans to cancel.
self isolation needs some support in place. It will have an impact on many people beyond getting in groceries.

The people I grew up around still had the mentality of stocking up so there was always a couple of months worth of food etc. Downside of living in the countryside is getting snowed in etc.

And this rubbed off onto me. The back up has come in handy several times over the years. It’s easy to store as it’s amazing how much you can cram into a box to go under your bed. The stash also came in handy years ago as I waited for a new base to be delivered 🤣
 
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#34
If its as decimated as it was back in the 'credit crunch' days of 2008/2009 then sure we will probably all 'feel' quite broke but in reality, we will muddle on through, just like a lot did back then. Even then it was a case of just riding the waves as it wasnt quiet all the time. More like an endless month of March. I cant see it getting as bad as that though personally. Still, a good time to put other money making plans into action too
 
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I'm very aware of hygiene, this has been a good motivation to be more careful.

Whether it makes a difference or not I'm requesting visitors wash their hands before physical contact, and I will be doing the same on arrival.

In my outside life I am also making changes.

The reason for my visit to London soon is considering different options for anyone who doesn't wish to travel, for now I'm going ahead. Everything locked and loaded.
 
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At the moment I’m making plans to increase income from other avenues in this industry. As much as I would love to ignore this, because of existing health I cannot.

I have considered the awkward question part if/when the time comes. Under the circumstances I will be requesting I make first contact with punters to explain the situation and ask that as long as they give their correct area info, could other details be fake.
If it cannot be done anonymously all I can do is stall whilst I hear back from the punter.

Fingers crossed I never have to send any we need to talk messages.
I would hope that if it was a UKE member that this problem arose with then a talk would be sensible and balanced, generally we seem to take our responsibilities seriously.
If for some reason I tested positive I would immediately tell the lady and leave her to deal with her end, assuming she would do that and believe that I would do the same.
 
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self isolation needs some support in place. It will have an impact on many people beyond getting in groceries.

The people I grew up around still had the mentality of stocking up so there was always a couple of months worth of food etc. Downside of living in the countryside is getting snowed in etc.

And this rubbed off onto me. The back up has come in handy several times over the years. It’s easy to store as it’s amazing how much you can cram into a box to go under your bed. The stash also came in handy years ago as I waited for a new base to be delivered 🤣
It's possible to go OTT full survivalist mode of course. But it does surprise me how many friends and family members I have spoken to have made no attempt to do any additional provisoning. I wouldn't feel at all comfortable if I just had a few days of food in the house at the moment.

A few times in the past when there's been chronically bad weather for example, it's been a bit of a shock to go to the shops and find there's virtually nothing on the shelves.
 
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It's possible to go OTT full survivalist mode of course. But it does surprise me how many friends and family members I have spoken to have made no attempt to do any additional provisoning. I wouldn't feel at all comfortable if I just had a few days of food in the house at the moment.

A few times in the past when there's been chronically bad weather for example, it's been a bit of a shock to go to the shops and find there's virtually nothing on the shelves.
Panic buyers are annoying af.
I know some that are the same and only have a couple of days food. I have never laughed as hard at the suggestion of staying with me.
 
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Panic buyers are annoying af.
I know some that are the same and only have a couple of days food. I have never laughed as hard at the suggestion of staying with me.
I read an interesting and well researched novel a short while back about a similar mega virus outbreak in the USA. It raised some interesting moral dilemmas. If anyone has been aware/concerned enough to stock up thoroughly and been trying to warn/advise others to do so, but just been mocked or patronised. Do they then welcome in these people when it all really turns to shit ? Let a neighbour in for some of your food reserves and they will bring along their family, friends and neighbours and your carefully stored hoard will be gone in a day.
 
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Is this affecting this industry?

Curious as to what punters think about the increased risks ( if any) about punting during all the media attention?

I’m hoping it is putting you all off, otherwise I’ve definitely lost my sparkle lol 😆

Vic x
yup no personally but a reg told me business is below 50% normal in the last two weeks.........me Im comfortable wi the odds but note that foreplay is limited wi the bumping elbows technique.......:lol:
 
#47
As it's now here in Swansea I am taking more precautions and will now be requesting visitors to wash hands and face upon arrival as things 'heat up' in Swansea. Hopefully it's overkill and unnecessary but fail to prepare, prepare to fail and all that.
Thankfully I'm on the outskirts, but my clients are from all over so you can't be too careful I guess.
 
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Might be controversial but given the mixed news and the questionable containment seen elsewhere in other countries. I'll be changing my plans as to a degree its a number game so I'll be looking at outcalls to an apartment and not visiting incalls. For me less travelling, less risk and I've more control over my environment and the number of visitors.
 
#49
I wouldn't deter me, but I'm far more likely to encounter it in my workplace than yours.

Beyond the perceived risk of transmission/ infection, the media prominence and practical procedures around this virus may give some second thoughts. For example, the containment procedure involves thorough investigation of contacts, and potentially awkward questions for a punter.
My thoughts exactly, I very much doubt that Vic has lost her sparkle. :)
 
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bloody hope not I’m getting a complex 😬xx
Are you saying that you've noticed a drop in activity...I'm not entirely surprised as the irresponsible way in which some are reporting on it, particularly the saturation coverage on channels like Sky News is bound to have an effect. But hopefully it will be shortlived...like it or not we will all have to get use to living/working with the risk...life must go on regardless.
 
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Is this affecting this industry?

Curious as to what punters think about the increased risks ( if any) about punting during all the media attention?

I’m hoping it is putting you all off, otherwise I’ve definitely lost my sparkle lol 😆

Vic x
Take it from me you’ve defo not lost your sparkle , like you said it’s all the over the top media attention and scaremongering , it will all blow over in a few weeks and things and business will be back to normal ... FFS flu kills more people and if not we’ll just get on with !
 
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if two well people meet (and keep good hygiene generally) the virus is not likely to hit them at the time they meet. - so I'm happy to go on meeting WG's from time to time..... especially whilst the coronavirus is not commonplace in areas i am at/travelling
 
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if two well people meet (and keep good hygiene generally) the virus is not likely to hit them at the time they meet. - so I'm happy to go on meeting WG's from time to time..... especially whilst the coronavirus is not commonplace in areas i am at/travelling
That statement is silly. If the two people are well then, by definition they don’t have coronavirus so they can’t pass it on. However, you’re not to necessarily know whether you or the SP has it In the gestation period and it’s even possible either of you have it but show no symptoms.
 
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The dreaded virus will not really influence my life unless of course I was diagnosed with it in which case I’d lock myself way or die:lol: I’d never have punted if I had the slightest sniffle or temperature before so I’m not going to change my behaviour much.
I may run away if someone is having a coughing fit though:)
But if the symptoms don't appear until a week or so after you have it (or are infectious)it is a slightly more tricky thing to judge than normal.

I think in a total isolation situation because I haven't stocked up at all, my cats have got a couple of weeks more food here than i do - but seeing as they can't open it I fear if it all goes wrong I am the first thing on their menu :scare:
 
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I’ve had two cancellations because *allegedly* work didn’t allow travel. So maybe there’s some effect, although negligible in this case.
Yes I've had to cancel 3 trips over the next few months. Unless it's critical we are advised no flights and that all meetings are to be on Skype or Webex, this outbreak might lead to a significant change in business practice in the future. A positive.
 
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But if the symptoms don't appear until a week or so after you have it (or are infectious)it is a slightly more tricky thing to judge than normal.

I think in a total isolation situation because I haven't stocked up at all, my cats have got a couple of weeks more food here than i do - but seeing as they can't open it I fear if it all goes wrong I am the first thing on their menu :scare:
It is difficult to judge especially as there are people who will be infected and not show any symptoms. It’s like lots of things in life, there is a risk attached and we have to make our own assessments. I‘m in a higher risk group, I’m in my sixties, multiple health issues so do I lock myself away and wait for the storm to pass? I don’t know:unknown: I won’t be punting for a while but that isn’t related to Coronavirus. I will get on with life, go out for drinks and meals and take my chances.
 
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Are you saying that you've noticed a drop in activity...I'm not entirely surprised as the irresponsible way in which some are reporting on it, particularly the saturation coverage on channels like Sky News is bound to have an effect. But hopefully it will be shortlived...like it or not we will all have to get use to living/working with the risk...life must go on regardless.
The mortality rate for the eldely is terrifying, ditto people with lung conditions or compromised immunity

So no life wont go on as normal and nor should it. Travel will be curtailed and business will be lost
 
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The mortality rate for the eldely is terrifying, ditto people with lung conditions or compromised immunity

So no life wont go on as normal and nor should it. Travel will be curtailed and business will be lost
You have no idea what the mortality rate is, as you have no idea of how many people have contracted the virus. Many will not even know they've had it...believing it to be just a cold.

Of course people will carry on as normal...does the annual flu outbreak lead to travel restrictions and businesses failing ?.
 
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You have no idea what the mortality rate is, as you have no idea of how many people have contracted the virus. Many will not even know they've had it...believing it to be just a cold.

Of course people will carry on as normal...does the annual flu outbreak lead to travel restrictions and businesses failing ?.
Italy is a good baseline as a similar country in size and openness and demographics.

80yrs and above 20% of confirmed cases, 8% for 70s and almost 4 in your 60s.

I imagine a fair few girls will lose some clientele by the time summer is here and yes there needs to be more investigation into the numbers
 
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Italy is a good baseline as a similar country in size and openness and demographics.

80yrs and above 20% of confirmed cases, 8% for 70s and almost 4 in your 60s.

I imagine a fair few girls will lose some clientele by the time summer is here and yes there needs to be more investigation into the numbers
'Confirmed cases'...I say again many people will go undiagnosed because the symptoms haven't been serious enough to seek medical advice...that will include many elderly people.

Those who have existing respiratory illnesses are at risk from any number of viruses that could prove life threatening.
 
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Is this affecting this industry?

Curious as to what punters think about the increased risks ( if any) about punting during all the media attention?

I’m hoping it is putting you all off, otherwise I’ve definitely lost my sparkle lol 😆

Vic x
Based on this article we should be increasing our punting or indulge in spot of dIY ... help ward off those nasty viruses .
Turns out being called a wanker is compliment to your good health ... who'd have thought:thumbsup:

https://bigthink.com/sex-relationships/health-benefits-of-masturbation
 
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'Confirmed cases'...I say again many people will go undiagnosed because the symptoms haven't been serious enough to seek medical advice...that will include many elderly people.

Those who have existing respiratory illnesses are at risk from any number of viruses that could prove life threatening.
I think the swift and very drastic measues China took (after they started taking measures) gives an indication of the potential seriousness of it.

This is clearly very very different to the "lots of people die every winter from the flu" narrative that some people have.

The only leader I have seen who is fairly dismissive of it all seems to be Trump - and the looks from some of his advisers when he comes out with his advice that completely contradicts any form of expert advice suggests they know he is crazy
"You can still have it and go to work as normal" :scare:
 
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I think the swift and very drastic measues China took (after they started taking measures) gives an indication of the potential seriousness of it.

This is clearly very very different to the "lots of people die every winter from the flu" narrative that some people have.

The only leader I have seen who is fairly dismissive of it all seems to be Trump - and the looks from some of his advisers when he comes out with his advice that completely contradicts any form of expert advice suggests they know he is crazy
"You can still have it and go to work as normal" :scare:
I'm not being dismissive but simply pointing out most of us will have to continue as normal whether we like it or not. I've already said that the most constructive thing that could be done by government at the moment is to make testing widely available...pop up test centres for instance. This will mean people won't have to isolate just because they have symptoms which may just be a cold, easing the burden on GP surgeries and hospitals.
 
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No aspect of my life has changed. I already washed my hands each time I use the toilet or they might get dirty, have been to central Birmingham 3 times (twice to Chinatown) and once to central London. Met people from around the world, exactly as I would have done.

I am more afraid of the hysteria than of any minute risk I might get this illness. I'm bothered about the suffering of the victims, but don't fear being one of them. And I'm bothered about travel plans being needlessly affected, generalised hysteria, and racism towards ethnically Chinese people (few of whom will have been anywhere near an affected zone).
 
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No aspect of my life has changed. I already washed my hands each time I use the toilet or they might get dirty, have been to central Birmingham 3 times (twice to Chinatown) and once to central London. Met people from around the world, exactly as I would have done.

I am more afraid of the hysteria than of any minute risk I might get this illness. I'm bothered about the suffering of the victims, but don't fear being one of them. And I'm bothered about travel plans being needlessly affected, generalised hysteria, and racism towards ethnically Chinese people (few of whom will have been anywhere near an affected zone).
I feel so bad for the chinese people. It’s scaremongering and like you say, just keep on top of the hygiene regime and all should be fine
 
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I’m sure I read or heard that the manufacturer of corona beer has lost millions due to Americans boycotting the beer :lol: apparently they will never drink it again
only a fortnight or so ago they released a press release saying the company were relaxed about the name of their beer at this time - so not sure.....

PS Im sure i got the coronavirus last month - i drank a whole bottle of corona beer and started coughing.... almost immediately.... ;)
 
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No aspect of my life has changed. I already washed my hands each time I use the toilet or they might get dirty, have been to central Birmingham 3 times (twice to Chinatown) and once to central London. Met people from around the world, exactly as I would have done.

I am more afraid of the hysteria than of any minute risk I might get this illness. I'm bothered about the suffering of the victims, but don't fear being one of them. And I'm bothered about travel plans being needlessly affected, generalised hysteria, and racism towards ethnically Chinese people (few of whom will have been anywhere near an affected zone).
Bloody hell, guess I’m loosing my sparkle then lol 😂
 
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well survived today's football match ..attendance of more than 29 000 .. bogs full but managed to sing a couple of choruses of Happy Birthday... feel okay ... so when do I get my prize?
 
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I am taking the current situation very seriously but just been trying to get some perspective on it overall.

I have just seen the latest figure of 216 confirmed cases of the virus in The U.K. This is from a total of 21460 tested which unless my maths is shite is just about 1%. As it seems quite hard to get tested I would assume that those who have been are considered to be in a high risk group.

I haven't got the recovery rate figures to hand but if I remember they are quite high.

So lets take every reasonable precaution but not think we are all doomed just yet. We will need to see how things develop in the next couple of weeks to get a better idea of where we are headed with this.
 
I am taking the current situation very seriously but just been trying to get some perspective on it overall.

I have just seen the latest figure of 216 confirmed cases of the virus in The U.K. This is from a total of 21460 tested which unless my maths is shite is just about 1%. As it seems quite hard to get tested I would assume that those who have been are considered to be in a high risk group.

I haven't got the recovery rate figures to hand but if I remember they are quite high.

So lets take every reasonable precaution but not think we are all doomed just yet. We will need to see how things develop in the next couple of weeks to get a better idea of where we are headed with this.
Key word ... Mr Plant T .. :thumbsup:.. be careful but not silly :)
 
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